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  1. Russia of course, could influence the Turkish disposition towards Israel. In fact this is highly likely. Despite apparent Christian Orthodoxy, their alliance with middle eastern countries such as Syria display a strange affiliation with Islamic thinking.

  2. https://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/bb/bb54.htm

    The above chapter is from the book of the Bee which was in the custody of the Church of the East. Nestorius and the Assyrian Church of the East were outcasts after the Council of Ephesus..Maybe the Vatican library has a copy of it but the above doesn’t sound like it would have been modified by anyone.

    Glenn

  3. Referencing Ezekiel 38:10-12 (World English Bible) “‘The Lord GOD says: “It will happen in that day that things will come into your mind, and you will devise an evil plan. You will say, ‘I will go up to the land of unwalled villages. I will go to those who are at rest, who dwell securely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates, to take the plunder and to take prey; to turn your hand against the waste places that are inhabited, and against the people who are gathered out of the nations, who have gotten livestock and goods, who dwell in the middle of the earth.’

    James, have you already considered the possibility that Gog (descendants of Khazaria) has indeed already conquered the promise land of Palestine, and indeed is now plundering their livestock and goods, and taking are preying on the occupants thereof, where there is no walled villages?

  4. Russia will attack Turkey and take its Western parts (Constantinople). Assad will take the rest of Turkey. It has been prophesied many times.

    • “It’s been prophesied many times”. I think you are just parroting some dispensational futurist Bible teacher who himself doesn’t know any better because he’s been influenced by false teachers such as Larkin, Darby, and Scofield.

  5. There are few things to consider when Daniel 27:9 and Ezekiel ch. 38&39 are concerned. First, i was also being taught the Ezekiel 38 &39 referred to Russia attacking Israel at the beginning of the tribulation period, then 7 years of Trib. But there are many things in these chapters making it the the last battle of Armageddon. For instance, this verse:

    18“And it will come to pass at the same time, when Gog comes against the land of Israel,” says the Lord God, “that My fury will show in My face. 19For in My jealousy and in the fire of My wrath I have spoken: ‘Surely in that day there shall be a great [e]earthquake in the land of Israel, 20so that the fish of the sea, the birds of the heavens, the beasts of the field, all creeping things that creep on the earth, and all men who are on the face of the earth shall shake at My presence”………… right here, God says two things that HE WILL BE THERE AT THIS BATTLE, …the fist, when He said that “His fury will show in My face”, ans “The earth will shake at My presence”.

    Secondly, the verse in chp.39:17-20,

    “17“And as for you, son of man, thus says the Lord God, ‘Speak to every sort of bird and to every beast of the field:

    “Assemble yourselves and come;
    Gather together from all sides to My sacrificial meal
    Which I am sacrificing for you,
    A great sacrificial meal on the mountains of Israel,
    That you may eat flesh and drink blood.

    These verses go with Revelation 19:17Then I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the birds that fly in the midst of heaven, “Come and gather together for the supper of the great God, 18that you may eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of captains, the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and of those who sit on them, and the flesh of all people,free and slave, both small and great.”

    And also, Matthew 24: 26“Therefore if they say to you, ‘Look, He is in the desert!’ do not go out; or ‘Look, He is in the inner rooms!’ do not believe it. 27For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 28For wherever the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together.

    No other place in scripture is there a reference about a Major Endtime Battle) that talke’s about Birds devouring people, and that it’s TWO different battles.

    Further more, why would John use the terms Gog and Magog in revelation, as seeing these are two
    different battles,(Ezekiel (Armageddon) & after the 1000 year reign of Christ as the outcomes are totally achieved totally different?

    The answer, I believe is that John is saying that, after the 1000 year reign, Satan will go out thru another man to deceive the masses. John was stating, that just as Gog and Magog in Ezekiel 38-39 referred to Anti-Christ #1, so after the 1000 year reign, Satan will raise up Anti-Christ #2. So, this is proof that, Gog and Magog in Ezekiel is (THE) Anti-Christ #1.

    3rd, all these nations in Ezekiel, which surround Israel, are ALL Islamic.

    Daniel 9:26-27 is referring to the Anti-Christ, and NOT Jesus. When, in verse 26, it says ”

    “And the people of the prince who is to come
    Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.”……………This is talking about the “People of the coming Anti-Christ”….This is referring to the destruction of the Temple in 70AD when Titus went in. Many people will say that it’s the Revived Roman Empire, because Titus was a Roman. But, what the don’t know or understand is that when Titus came in to Israel, he brought 4 divisions with him. # of those divisions were out of Turkey and Syria, and made up of Arabs. These are the ones who actually burned the temple, against Titus’ wishes. Titus did not want to destroy the temple, he wanted to save it and set it up as a Roman Temple. But the “People of the Prince who is to come” (Anti-Christ), who are ALL Arabs out of this area, destroyed the Temple.

    You say that verse 27 referres to Jesus? Tell, me, if verse 26 is the anti-Christ, how is Jesus doing these “But in the middle of the week
    He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.
    And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,”????

    This is the Anti-Christ, Turkey is the head of the Beast “Revived Islamic Ottoman Empire”, and NOT Rome. The ten horns are all Islamic nations that will impose Sharia law in there nations. (Afghanistan is one of those nations) All the nations “Surround” Israel; NO European nation does.

    The BEAST system wants Jerusalem as its capital, as God says, “I will make Jerusalem a cup of terror to all the surrounding nations”

    Babylon is Saudi Arabia….NOT Europe, America, Rome or any thing else. God says in Isaiah 13:19-20
    “19And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms,
    The beauty of the Chaldeans’ pride,
    Will be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.
    20It will never be inhabited,
    Nor will it be settled from generation to generation;
    Nor will the Arabian pitch tents there,……………..the Hebrew word for “Arabian” is “Inhabitants of Arabia”

    The Abomination that makes desolate” is when the anti-Christ, in Daniel 9:27, takes the “BLACK STONE” from the Kaaba in Mecca in the middle of the “Covenant”, or “WEEK”, and takes it to the Temple in Jerusalem, and declares that Jerusalem and all of Israel belongs to the Muslims.

  6. DJ on December 29, 2021 at 4:14 pm said: There are few things to consider when Daniel 27:9 and Ezekiel ch. 38 & 39 are concerned. First, i was also being taught the Ezekiel 38 &39 referred to Russia attacking Israel at the beginning of the tribulation period, then 7 years of Trib. But there are many things in these chapters making it the the last battle of Armageddon. For instance, this verse: 18 “And it will come to pass at the same time, when Gog comes against the land of Israel,” says the Lord God, “that My fury will show in My face.”

    You are relying on the teachings of dispensationalists to include Hal Lindsey and Cyrus Schofield. Physical and mysterious Babylon is not Saudi Arabia. Physical Babylon remains desolate even today. Sadam Hussein attempted to resurrect the city as a museum, but after his death it has returned to desolation, which fulfills Scripture. Russia is not Gog.

    Hal Lindsey is very wealthy, last I heard was around $53 million. According to http://www.preacherbiography.info/hal-lindsey/ , he divorced 3 times and is with a 4th woman. Link states,

    * begin quote *
    The Late Great Planet Earth was written in the 1970s. In this book he made many predictions of what was to come concerning the end time. Since then many of his predictions have been shown to be false. The book was packed full with Lindsey’s interpretations of scripture, and many of his predictions and explanations seemed plausible. But as global events have worked through history in the past forty years, many of Lindsey’s predictions have fallen and he earned accusations of being a false predictor. …

    Hal Lindsey is well known for teaching that there will be a pre-tribulation rapture. But the Bible says that Jesus will not come till “the last trump.” The best chapter for debunking the pretrib rapture is,

    Matthew 24:29:”Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.”

    There are many verses like this one that plainly state that Jesus will come after the tribulation.
    * end quote *

    Cyrus Schofield is another infidel, author of the inital reference notes in the Schofield chain reference Bible. Stephen Sizer, a UK pastor, goes into quite thorough detail through his research of the man (44 printed pages long, with 173 footnotes).

    http://stephensizer.com/2021/06/cyrus-ingerson-scofield-charlatan-and-heretic/

    Cyrus abandoned his first wife and children causing his wife to divorce him for failing to support them, then he married another siring additional children. He was also removed from office as Kansas State District Attorney after a short time for corruption. There are also legitimate questions on his credentials to being a pastor, as well as numerous questionable business practices, some of which landed him in jail.

    They both fail the test: Titus 1:6-11 (WEB)

    [6] if anyone is blameless, the husband of one wife, having children who believe, who are not accused of loose or unruly behaviour. [7] For the overseer must be blameless, as God’s steward, not self-pleasing, not easily angered, not given to wine, not violent, not greedy for dishonest gain; [8] but given to hospitality, a lover of good, sober minded, fair, holy, self-controlled, [9] holding to the faithful word which is according to the teaching, that he may be able to exhort in the sound doctrine, and to convict those who contradict him.

    [10] For there are also many unruly men, vain talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, [11] whose mouths must be stopped: men who overthrow whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for dishonest gain’s sake.

    All should note that these put the focus on the bondwoman versus the free (Galatians 4:19-26).

    This ought to be a warning for all to develop new lenses from which to discern by, using the Scriptures first as a filter to weed out the chafe and adhere to the good (Acts 17:11). God will reveal the truth to those who are obedient to Him (John 8:31,32).

  7. Shalom
    I have been a follower of Yeshua the Messiah for about 30 years,
    and I, too, had always been taught that Russia is the one attacking Israel and is still being taught.
    But I had been studying the Bible myself for the past few years, and I received confirmation from several sources that the interpreters of the Bible are completely wrong.
    Gog Magog, etc., are not Russia and the incorrectly translated Hebrew word Rosh, which was interpreted into Russian, means in Hebrew a chief or a head, i.e. it is not a state or city or anything like that. Rosh HaShana is the Israeli main festival from which that word Rosh comes.
    Just as the Askhenazis are considered all over the world to be Semitic because they inherited from Japhet. And yes I’ve often wondered how it’s possible they have a majority in Israel about 80 percent even more. And they are all over Europe and America. They have politics in their hands, as well as all the world’s banks and other monetary reserves.

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