Abraham Lincoln’s views about Rome, the Pope, the Vatican, the Jesuits and their influence on American society
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Abraham Lincoln blamed the cause of the American Civil War on Rome!
The following quotes are from the book, “Fifty Years in the Church of Rome” by Charles Chiniquy, who was a priest in the Roman Catholic Church for 25 years and later left the Roman church and became a Presbyterian pastor. He was a close friend of the 16th President of the United States, Abraham Lincoln and had several personal interviews with him. The following are quotes from Abraham Lincoln during one of his talks with Charles Chiniquy. Read http://www.biblebelievers.com/chiniquy/cc50_ch61.html for the entire text. The emphasis in bold and comments in italics are mine.
“It is with the Southern leaders of this civil war as with the big and small wheels of our railroad cars. Those who ignore the laws of mechanics are apt to think that the large, strong, and noisy wheels they see are the motive power, but they are mistaken. The real motive power is not seen; it is noiseless and well concealed in the dark, behind its iron walls. The motive power are the few well-concealed pails of water heated into steam, which is itself directed by the noiseless, small but unerring engineer’s finger.
“The common people see and hear the big, noisy wheels of the Southern Confederacy’s cars; they call them Jeff Davis, Lee, Toombs, Beauregard, Semmes, ect., and they honestly think that they are the motive power, the first cause of our troubles. But this is a mistake. The true motive power is secreted behind the thick walls of the Vatican, the colleges and schools of the Jesuits, the convents of the nuns, and the confessional boxes of Rome.
“There is a fact which is too much ignored by the American people, and with which I am acquainted only since I became President; it is that the best, the leading families of the South have received their education in great part, if not in whole, from the Jesuits and the nuns. Hence those degrading principles of slavery, pride, cruelty, which are as a second nature among so many of those people. Hence that strange want of fair play, humanity; that implacable hatred against the ideas of equality and liberty as we find them in the Gospel of Christ. You do not ignore that the first settlers of Louisiana, Florida, New Mexico, Texas, South California and Missouri were Roman Catholics, and that their first teachers were Jesuits. It is true that those states have been conquered or bought by us since. But Rome had put the deadly virus of her antisocial and anti-Christian maxims into the veins of the people before they became American citizens. Unfortunately, the Jesuits and the nuns have in great part remained the teachers of those people since. They have continued in a silent, but most efficacious way, to spread their hatred against our institutions, our laws, our schools, our rights and our liberties in such a way that this terrible conflict became unavoidable between the North and the South. As I told you before, it is to Popery that we owe this terrible civil war.
“I would have laughed at the man who would have told me that before I became the President. But Professor Morse (Samuel Morse, the man who invented the telegraph and who also warned extensively about Jesuit infiltration and its undermining American culture) has opened my eyes on that subject. And now I see that mystery (also known as MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT of Revelation 17:5); I understand that engineering of hell which, though not seen or even suspected by the country, is putting in motion the large, heavy, and noisy wheels of the state cars of the Southern Confederacy. Our people is not yet ready to learn and believe those things, and perhaps it is not the proper time to initiate them to those dark mysteries of hell; it would throw oil on a fire which is already sufficiently destructive.
“You are almost the only one with whom I speak freely on that subject. But sooner or later the nation will know the real origin of those rivers of blood and tears, which are spreading desolation and death everywhere. And then those who have caused those desolations and disasters will be called to give an account of them.
“I do not pretend to be a prophet. But though not a prophet, I see a very dark cloud on our horizon. And that dark cloud is coming from Rome. It is filled with tears of blood. It will rise and increase till its flanks will be torn by a flash of lightning, followed by a fearful peal of thunder. Then a cyclone, such as the world has never seen, will pass over this country, spreading ruin and desolation from north to south. After it is over, there will be long days of peace and prosperity: for Popery, with its Jesuits and merciless Inquisition, will have been for ever swept away from our country. Neither I nor you, but our children, will see those things.”
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Unfortunate a man could be so stupid or evil, as to make such a comment about America’s greatest President bar none. Anyone need just read the man’s history, he obviously learned truth telling very young and effected his life thru out.
May the Lord grant me opportunity to speak with him on the other side, because he confided himself to Christ. Because even among the most perfect our Lord says there’s sin and therefore cause for repentance before we pass the pale of death.
Thank you, Art, for your support of my views about Abraham Lincoln! He was indeed America’s greatest President.
Lincoln was Marx’s pen pal, jailed journalists with dissenting views and trashed our Constitution. He was basically Obama-Biden version 1.0. I wouldn’t use him as a reason to support anything positive.
Support your statement about Abraham Lincoln with reliable documentation and I will reconsider my views.
Presently reading a very detailed biography of Lincoln by David Herbert Donald, there is a quote of a German-American Republican leader in Illinois who said Lincoln was no match for the Jesuits and sophists like Stephen Douglas. I agree there is a subversive element to Jesuit education from what I’ve seen. Also, our leaders in the most prominent positions are Catholic like Biden, Pelosi, Burns who heads CIA, the head of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Menendez, and 6 or 7 or the 9 Supreme Court justices, the other two are Jewish. Then on TV there’s all the race baiting and fake news stirring up emotions among the goyim. One could take a guess at who owns those 5 or 6 corporations that control everything on TV. Thank you for putting up the great President Lincoln’s views. He is somebody every American should study.
He was a fraud and drama queen in many ways. RIP. We all fall short.
PASTOR CHINIQUY: AN EXAMINATION OF HIS “FIFTY YEARS IN THE CHURCH OF ROME” by
REV. SYDNEY F. SMITH, S.J. CATHOLIC TRUTH SOCIETY LONDON 1908
https://www.catholicbridge.com/catholic/chiniquy2.php
018 Newspaper DENIES LINCOLN WROTE COMMENTS ON CATHOLICS
11 column inches
Catalogue: http://www.chiniquy.ca/
LOL! Do you think quoting from a Catholic source is reliable information?! And from a Jesuit priest of all people!!! You should read what I’m working on now to see how reliable the Jesuits are: https://www.jamesjpn.net/conspiracy/the-secret-behind-secret-societies-transcription-of-walter-vieths-talk/
Hi James.
My name is Earl Wallace, pastor of Liberty Christian Fellowship Church in upstate NY.
Ever read Samuel Adams’ “American Independence” speech, the 3rd paragraph of which says, America’s Founders knew they were overthrowing the influence of popery in politics, just as their Reformation forefathers had overthrown popery in religion by making the Bible available to all. (Download your PDF copy of Samuel Adams’ “American Independence Speech” by using this link: http://www.libertycf.org/lcf-may-26-2019-memorial-day…/)
Our challenge today is that all stratum and levels of American government, form the school board to the Supreme Court have been taken over by non-Bible believing “religious” people, of whom Catholics are chief. When Catholics, Anglicans, and Episcopalians get elected to public office or appointed as judges or cabinet members, we think we are getting people who have a Biblically-based “conservative” value system. What we get instead, however, is a person who actually is a secular humanist, who believes that man is the authority and final arbiter on all matters. This view is a reflection of the Catholic Church’s & Vatican’s doctrine that the Pope is Vicker of Christ or Christ on earth! Thus they believe their man-made counsel of Trent can define what the Bible means, as they claim to speak for God, despite what the Bible actually says.
An example of this is what happened in 1961, when Roy Torcaso wanted to be a notary public in Maryland but he was denied as he refused to make “a declaration of belief in the existence of God,” as required by Maryland’s State Constitution, Article 37.
The case, Torcaso v Watkins (1961), went to the Supreme Court where Justice Hugo Black (one of what I call the “Supreme Court Constituion Busters” appointed by Franklin D. Roosevelt) creatively used the 14th Amendment to usurp jurisdiction of religion away from the States.
He included a footnote which has since been cited authoritatively in subsequent cases. We should keep in mind, that under the US Constitution, the Supreme Court does not make law, congress does! So when law schools teach “case law” they are part of the Constitution busting system designed to destroy the most Judeo-Christian, Biblically based government and culture to ever exist on earth!
Justice Hugo Black’s footnote which has since been cited authoritatively in subsequent cases is as follows:
“AMONG THE RELIGIONS in this country which do not teach what would generally be considered a belief in the existence of God are Buddhism, Taoism, Ethical Culture, SECULAR HUMANISM and others.”
Supreme Court Justice Scalia wrote in Edwards v. Aguillard (1987):
“In Torcaso v. Watkins, 367 U.S. 488, 495, n. 11 (1961), we did indeed refer to ‘SECULAR HUMANISM’ as a ‘religion.'”
After recognizing SECULAR HUMANISM as a religion, in order to not prefer one religion over another, the courts proceeded to expel God.
Thus, they…
Dear Pastor Earl, please continue what you were saying in your comment. I appreciate it. I doubled the limit of characters. Thank you for your comments!
were some of big stuff ups by the north in the american civil war brainless generals drunks or paid off by the vatican
also in ww2 thousands of Jews lined up to get shot no resistance out numbered Germans hundreds to 1 compared to Warsaw up rising
thoughts
2 big issues never mentioned feminization of western men by TV media popular music culture pornography
who will tell you[[ she some women have balls]] insult to men and women every 2 yr old know thisis false
feeble diseased senile leaders of churches legal systems governments nuns priests forbiden to marry
nuns priest forbidden to marry spreading their diseases in society
scorched earth policies implemented by the Vatican the combined churches
those who will not work shall not eat
i /we know the vtican is the whore of RE17-5 some peopl are amazed by my faith in CHRIST JESUS
I say the whole world combined can offer nothing churches people govts returned servicemens clubs
but a hole in the ground here lie the bones of john brown a victim of the system
good work you can kill the soldier but not the idea thou you reach in to the grave
where is the idea in the mist of time you seek but can not find
i have destroyed my eemies from beyond the grave
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Interesting article, and not too surprising. With thanksgiving day a couple of days off, here is a reminder of why Lincoln declared it a national holiday. It was due to the arrival of America’s only ally in the Civil War – the Pacific and Atlantic Russian fleets into the harbors of San Francisco and New York City. The reason was to protect us from the British and French who were massing armies in Canada and Mexico to support the south and divide up the country after the war was lost. This is a subject that is never spoken of in this country. Listen to Webster Tarpley’s speech on CSPAN a few days ago – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLB1umCHaqw
Of course Britain was close to the Vatican after being awarded Ireland on the stipulation that the Irish never learn their true history. Not surprisingly, Lincoln and Czar Alexander were both murdered not long after, with Booth’s group supported by at least 4 Canadian banksters. As we now know, Booth’s father wrote one of the first threatening letters to Andrew Jackson after Jackson dissolved the Second National Bank of the United States. It is equally not surprising that New York banksters of New York funded the Bolshevik Revolution. Relation to the Vatican – well, banksters are banksters, nothing else need be said.
A lot of southerners were Irish Catholics. Just as John F Kennedy was expected to obey the Pope, so were they. In fact, nobody tells Americans what to do–especially whites. That is why Obummer took the last election: put in by brainless blacks and Spanish.
Interesting! Thank you for sharing that.
Oh…
Thanks for the clarification!
The other day I met a chose friend from Arkansas, one of the States that found against the Union in the American Civil war, and asked him what he was taught about Lincoln and the Civil war when a child in elementary school. He replied he was taught to respect Lincoln and that the South was mistaken! I didn’t find this same attitude from the locals in Biloxi Mississippi when I was there in 1970! Apparently not every southern state or everybody in the deep south was taught negatively about about Abraham Lincoln.
But isn’t he the cause of the Civil War as DBB said?
You know how much I love and respect DBB and how much I value his opinion on issues, but I’m sorry to say I think he was wrong on this one. It’s perfectly understandable why. DBB was raised in the deep South and therefore predudiced against Lincoln. DBB apparently didn’t know about Jesuit influence. He apparently never read Samuel Morse’s book, “Foreign Conspiracy Against the Liberties of the United States” http://jamesjpn.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Samuel_Morse_A_FOREIGN_CONSPIRACY.pdf For if he did, he would know that it was the Jesuit’s who caused the American Civil War. Morse was a friend of Lincoln. Even if one ignores all the above, the fact is the civil war started when the South attacked the North! It was the South who first resorted to violence.