This article is a composite three articles, one from https://libertytothecaptives.net/darby_writings_occult.html which is hard to read from a phone, one from https://theologyonline.com/threads/the-freemason-and-dispensationalist-connection.40545/, and one from https://www.cuttingedge.org/.

John Nelson Darby (1800-1882), the “Father of Dispensationalism,” used occult language throughout his doctrinal writings and letters. The majority of the phrases are found in Kabbalistic/Theosophical literature. J.N. Darby learned these esoteric terms somewhere—not from the Bible—and he deliberately integrated them into his theological treatises and letters. His practice of merging Theosophical vocabulary with supposedly biblical teaching is a form of syncretism.

Syncretism is the practice of combining different beliefs and various schools of thought. Syncretism involves the merging or assimilation of several originally discrete traditions, especially in the theology and mythology of religion, thus asserting an underlying unity and allowing for an inclusive approach to other faiths. – Wikipedia

The Absolute

John Nelson Darby

The Absolute is a Theosophical term for God.

The following is Helena Blavatsky’s description of the Absolute in The Secret Doctrine:

Darby and the Absolute

John Darby used the word, Absolute (with capitals to indicate a title) in reference to God:

Architect

Theosophy and Architect:

Darby and Architect

John Darby used the Masonic/Theosophical word, Architect (with capitals to indicate a title) in reference to God:

Heavenly Architect

Theosophy and the heavenly architect

Darby and the heavenly Architect

Vital Force

The occult and vital force

Darby and vital force

[Note: John Darby used the term, “vital force” the same way that occult practitioners do.]

Divine Mind

Theosophy and the Divine mind

H. P. BLAVATSKY defined Occultism as “the study of the Divine Mind in Nature”.

Darby and divine mind

In spiritual subjects, it is the object of much distinct converse in them to be able to present them primarily and vividly, so as to lead the way to fuller investigation of the divine mind.

Divine Being

Theosophy and the Divine Being

Theosophist Alice Bailey stated that the Seven Rays that reach us on Earth locally originate within the “Solar Logos,” i.e., the consciousness of the “Divine Being” of the Sun.

Darby and divine Being

Divine Essence

Theosophy and divine essence

Darby and divine essence

Divine Energy

Theosophy and Divine Energy

Darby and Divine Energy

Unintelligent Energy

Theosophy and Unintelligent Energy

Darby and Unintelligent Energy

Energy of Faith

Theosophy and energy of faith

Darby and the energy of faith

Secret Wisdom of God

Kabbalah and the secret wisdom of God

Darby and the secret wisdom of God

Divine Principle

Theosophy and the divine principle

Darby and the divine principle

“In the case which has led to these remarks, it is striking to see how this principle elevates the slave in his condition: he obeys by an inward divine principle, as though it were Christ Himself whom he obeyed.” (Quote source: John Nelson Darby’s Synopsis of the Bible Ephesians Chapter 6: http://stempublishing.com/authors/darby/synopsis/ephesians/ephesians6.html)

Divine Doctrine

Theosophy and the divine doctrine

Darby and the divine doctrine

Vital Principle

Theosophy and vital principle

H. P. Blavatsky wrote in 1888:

Darby and vital principle

Vital Energy

Theosophy and vital energy

Darby and vital energy

Energy of Love

Theosophy and energy of love

“Bailey wrote of “the return of the Christ”, but her concept had little in common with that of mainstream Christian churches. Bailey almost always used the phrase “the Christ” when not referring specifically to the Christian idea. For her, the leadership of the Hierarchy is an “office” (so to speak), to be occupied by various Masters, including the Master Jesus, in the course of Their unfolding evolution. She saw the Christ as a great “Person”, embodying the energy of love, and His return as the awakening of that energy in human consciousness.”

Darby and energy of love

Lord of Love

Theosophy and Lord of Love

Darby and Lord of Love

Divine Intelligence

Theosophy and divine intelligence

Alice Bailey:

Darby and divine intelligence

“The three parables which follow (v. 44-50) shew the intention of Christ, and divine intelligence, in these things. The field is purchased to obtain the treasure. Christ has bought (not redeemed) the world to possess His own. His power over those who refuse His rights will be manifested in judgment, but this is not the subject of the parable.” http://www.stempublishing.com/authors/darby/MISCELLA/33012F.html

The Coming One

Theosophy and the Coming One

Darby and the Coming One

The axe is at the root of the trees, the fan is in the hand of the coming One, the wheat is gathered into God’s garner, the chaff burnt up. That is, there is a close of the history of God’s people in judgment. http://www.stempublishing.com/authors/darby/synopsis/matthew/matthew3.html

My opinion

One may argue that the occultic, Masonic, Kabbalistic, Theosophical terms that Darby used in his writings was the popular language of his day, but the fact is not one of these terms are found in the Bible! To me this proves Darby was not a Bible teacher, he was a promoter of Luciferian doctrines which he claimed to be based on the Bible. A preacher is supposed to teach the Word of God from the Bible!
2 Timothy 4:2  Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

Isaiah 8:20  To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word (the Bible), it is because there is no light in them.

Just think what an evil influence Darby continues to be on millions of evangelicals today who promote the unbiblical doctrine of support for physical Israel in spite of the fact Almighty God destroyed the Christ rejecting nation of Israel and the Temple through the Romans in 70 AD! How could the Protestant churches tolerate that? The only reason I can think of is the hidden hand of the Jesuit order and its Counter-Reformtion behind it all. I heard it only takes one infiltrator to subvert a church or even an entire Protestant denomination.

The following are quotes from an article entitled, “The Freemason and Dispensationalist Connection.”

In the history of the Southern Baptist Convention – or denomination – during the late 19th century and through the 20th century, many of its male members were both Freemasons and dispensationalists. However, the denomination did not become totally dispensationalist until the sixties when the preacher of the First Baptist Church of Dallas, W.A. Criswell, led the Convention to become totally dispensationalist. Criswell soon led the Southern Baptist denomination to get rid of its old doctrine of the priesthood of the believer because under dispensationalism, the preacher must rule the members.

The Southern Baptists are not the only Evangelicals to follow dispensationalism and to have many male members who are Freemasons. Some of the wives are members of the Masonic women’s organization, the Eastern Star.

Billy Graham, Pat Robertson, Rick Warren, Oral Roberts, Jerry Falwell and Robert Schuller were all high ranking Freemasons as are their present day successors like T.D. Jakes. (And they were all Dispensationalists as well who promoted the false pre-tribulation rapture doctrine and unbiblical claims about the modern state of Israel.)

Stephen Sizer wrote a history of dispensationalism which he called Christian Zionism: Road-map to Armageddon,2009, Inter-Varsity Press.

Sizer has other writings on the topic of Christian Zionism, such as .”Christian Zionism: The New Heresy that Undermines Middle East Peace”. Middle East Monitor. Retrieved 1 August 2013..

The article with the link shown above refers to this source for the claim that John Nelson Darby was not only a Freemason but also was an agent of the Rothschild-owned British East India Company, is this: John Coleman, How Conspirators Misuse Christian Fundamentalists (white paper) (Carson City, Nev.: World in Review, 2003)

John Darby said that the “Church has sought to settle itself here, but it has no place on the earth… [Though] making a most constructive parenthesis, it forms no part of the regular order of God’s earthly plans, but is merely an interruption of them to give a fuller character and meaning to them…” – John. N. Darby, ‘The Character of Office in The Present Dispensation’ Collected Writings., Eccl. I, Vol. I, p. 94.

“Them” are all physical Israel, or Old Covenant Israel. The church, for Darby exists mainly to “give fuller character and meaning to all physical Israel.”

John Darby and then C.I. Scofield and Lewis S. Chafer said that when the dispensation of grace is over then God will return to a dispensation of law and again raise up and work with the people of the physical bloodline.- of the Old Covenant.

John Darby says, that in dispensationalism the Church is a mere “Parenthesis” and Israel – Old Covenant Israel of the bloodline – is to reign in the future, but II Corinthians 3: 7-11, and Hebrews 10: 9 say the Old Covenant was done away with – and in the Old Testament Haggai 2: 9 says “The glory of this latter house shall be greater than of the former. saith the Lord of hosts…”

“JEWISH ENCYCLOPEDIA, 1903, Vol. 5, page 503: “The technical language, symbolism, and rites of Masonry are full of Jewish ideas and terms.”

In Morals and Dogma,Albert Pike admits that the source of Freemasonry’s doctrines ultimately goes back to the Kabbalah, a Jewish book of occult knowledge:

“All truly dogmatic religions have issued from the Kabalah and return to it; everything scientific and grand in the religious dreams of all the Illuminati, Jacob Boeheme, Swedenborg, Saint Martin, and others, is borrowed from the Kabalah: all Masonic associations owe to it their Secrets and their Symbols.” (Morals and Dogma, p 744)

Next from FERVENT MASONIC DESIRE TO REBUILD SOLOMON’S TEMPLE IS THE DRIVING FORCE BEHIND THE EVENTS OF THE MID-EAST TODAY.

“Therefore, the first understanding we want you to grasp is that Freemasonry is absolutely, completely, 100% devoted to the Solomon Temple, without which the entire structure and foundation of Freemasonry would die! Thus does Masonry stand in stark contrast to genuine, Biblical Christianity. In other words, Freemasonry is rooted at its deepest foundation to the First Covenant of the Old Testament, while Biblical Christianity is rooted to the Second Covenant of Jesus Christ as delineated in the New Testament.”

“Mackey makes this fact quite clear also: “Masonry has derived its temple symbolism, as it has almost all its symbolic ideas, from the Hebrew type …” [Ibid] Since the Old Testament was written originally in the Hebrew, and the New Testament in the Greek, Mackey is clearly stating that Freemasonry is rooted in the Old Testament!”

Yet the admission of top Masons that Freemasonry is under the influence of the Kaballah shows that Masonry is rooted in the Kaballah and in the Talmud.

The emphasis in Freemasonry on the rebuilding of Solomon’s temple can be seen as a metaphor for building a world wide Masonic kingdom, both political and religious. Rebuilding the temple of Solomon might also be seen to be metaphoric for the rebuilding of the Mason himself along the lines of the Kaballah. But Freemasonry is run from the top, and most Masons in the local lodges do not know much about that top elite of Freemasonry.

The Masonic absorption in rebuilding Solomon’s Temple as a metaphor for creating a Masonic kingdom, or New World Order, has some roots in the Kaballah.

A Kabbalist of the 1500s, Isaac Luria, writes about the olam ha-tohu, or realm of confusion, and the olam ha-tikkun, the realm of restoration, which is the Kaballistic version of the millennial kingdom, the world empire to come ruled by the Kaballists.

There are several articles about the Olivet Discourse on this website. Why am I posting another one? Because this one, a talk by Steve Gregg, is one of the best, clearest, and easiest to understand in my opinion. I think it’s important to understand what Jesus is really saying in the Olivet Discourse. Many believers in Christ have been led astray by Darby’s Dispensationalism into thinking Matthew 24 is talking about events just before the end of the world when it’s really talking about the end of the Jews and Judaism!

I think Steve Gregg is a great Bible teacher but that doesn’t mean I agree with him about everything he teaches. He doesn’t hold the Historicist view of the Book of Revelation, the view held by all the early Protestant Bible teachers. And why doesn’t he? I think he must not know the Roman Catholic / Jesuit / Masonic connection to Dispensationalism. The Protestant Reformers all saw the “great whore that sitteth upon many waters” of Revelation 17:1 as the Roman Catholic Church! If Steve Gregg doesn’t see that now, maybe he will later. And I can say the same thing for pastor Chuck Baldwin as well. His teaching on the Olivet Discourse is also very good but I don’t agree with his preterist views on the Book of Revelation.

What I know today is the result of a long journey of 50 years of Bible study and research. Thanks to the Internet, research became much easier, and thanks to guidance and discernment from the Holy Spirit of who to listen to and what to read, I learned things that I believe can benefit the body of Christ. I’m not coming up with any new revelations from God, I’m sharing what the Church and men of God used to teach and believe before the Jesuit Counter-Reformation which led to apostasy and false doctrines in many Protestant churches.

And I like to study conspiratorial subjects, something some Christians don’t like and stay away from. If you do, remember that it only takes two influential people to make a conspiracy. Psalms 2 refers to a conspiracy of the rulers of the earth against God and His Kingdom.

This is what the rulers are doing today. Government officials are calling “hate speech” any Bible-based preaching against sin such as criticism of the LGBTQ movement. They are seeking to destroy Bible-based Christianity and replace it with ecumenical inclusiveness and tolerance of all beliefs and practices. Wikipedia calls gender a “social construct” and intelligent design of the Universe “pseudoscience”. The first chapter of the Book of Genesis says otherwise. A visitor could edit out those words from the Wikipedia articles that talk about them, but within minutes those words will be restored by Wikipedia moderators.

A condensed transcription of Steve Gregg’s explanation of the most misunderstood parts of the Olivet Discourse

The Olivet Discourse is a very much discussed controversial passage although many people perhaps don’t know it’s controversial. They’ve heard it taught from one point of view and have never known that there were other points of view about it. That was my position for many years in my ministry. I’ve been in the ministry for 52 years this year as a Bible teacher, and for the first 12 of those years probably or more, the Olivet Discourse just had a certain meaning that my teachers told me. It meant I kind of read it through this grid and I never thought there’d be any reason to consider another way of looking at it.

And then I read a book back in the 80s by a guy named Jay Adams and he had written a book about the book Revelation where he was taking the view that revelation is actually fulfilled in the past, not in the future. And he also had a chapter in there as I recall about the Olivet Discourse, and he didn’t convince me about the Book of Revelation in that book, but what he said about the Olivet Discourse was very eye-opening. Now that’s the first I ever heard of such an alternative interpretation.

Now this is the famous discourse where Jesus talks about how there will be wars and rumors of wars, earthquakes and famines and pestilences in diverse places, the abomination of desolation, all that stuff. Most Christians who are biblically literate know what I’m talking about when I say that. That discourse is found in all three of the synoptic Gospels it’s found in the 13th chapter of Mark. It’s found in the 21st chapter of Luke and it’s found in Matthew 24. In Matthew, it’s three times longer than it is in Mark or Luke.

Now, I’m going to use Matthew here because I believe the reason that Matthew’s version of the Olive Discourse appears to be three times longer is because he brings in things that Jesus said on other occasions which the other Gospels don’t include. No two of the Gospels even when they’re talking about the same story of the same discourse will give exactly the same details of it. Whether it’s one of the famous miracles of Jesus or one of the parables of Jesus or whether it’s a discourse like this, whether it’s the Sermon on the Mount or some other passage, if two or more Gospels cover it, they don’t cover verbatim the same. There’s some different wording, there are some different details included or excluded. Part of that is simply because they’re histories and when people write history they have to decide what they’re going to include and what they’re not.

I believe (in Matthew 24) there are two different discourses and maybe three that are combined here. The reason I say maybe three is because the first part of Matthew 24 parallels very, very closely the Olivet discourse in Mark 13 and Luke 21. But then in Matthew 24 after about verse 35 or so, there’s parallels to a different discourse in Luke 17. The material in Matthew 24 verses 36 and following is not found in Mark or Luke’s Olivet Discourse but it is found, much of it is found in Luke 17.

Of course, Matthew was an eyewitness so he would have heard those himself, he may have been his own source. But the point is Matthew’s Olivet Discourse comes from at least three different sources. One is the source from the Olivet Discourse itself recorded in Mark and Luke. Another is a different discourse of Jesus given in Luke 17. And another is three parables that we don’t know where Matthew got them but he heard them with his own ears so he made his own source.

Now having said that the question that is at issue is what is the Olivet Discourse about? That is the portion that was on the Mount of Olives uttered which parallels Mark 13 and Luke 21. Second question, what is the discourse in Luke 17 about which is brought by Matthew and attached to the Olivet Discourse? What is that about? And then I guess the third one would be these parables, what are they about?

I was raised as probably many of you were to understand this is a passage about the end of the world before Jesus returns, things that maybe are even starting to happen as we speak, earthquakes, wars, rumors of wars, and pestilences. I have to say that these things were associated in my mind with the end times, the last days, some of them with what was called the tribulation period. It was very common for those who were looking for signs of the times to be saying, “Oh look how many wars there are, look how many earthquakes there are, look how many of these things are happening.” I remember a number of teachers saying, “There have been more earthquakes in the last 100 years than in all recorded history previously. Now, I’m not sure how anyone would know that. I don’t know if they could record worldwide earthquakes 100 years ago and beyond. So I don’t know how anyone knows how many earthquakes there were previously. But even if it was true they’re quoting that as if to say, “See? We’re living in the times Jesus described. There will be earthquakes.” I’d point out that He doesn’t say anything about there being an increased number of earthquakes. He just said there’s gonna be earthquakes, there’s gonna be wars, there’s gonna be pestilences. Has there ever been a time when there weren’t those things? He didn’t say they’re gonna increase. He said don’t let these things make you think that the end is near. It’s not the end. These things have to happen but it’s not the end. In other words, far from saying earthquakes and pestilences, wars, these are a sign of the times, He’s saying, no don’t think they are. They’re not. These are just things that have to happen but the end’s not yet. After all, there’s always those things. There’s a lot of calamities that might make you think the end of the world is near.

What is He talking about? Is He talking about the end of the world? I don’t think He is. but to see that he’s not one has to look carefully at the parallel passages as well.

Let’s look at this passage. First of all, He left the Temple with His disciples and they observed how magnificent the stones of the Temple. They’re pointing it out. Look at these great stones! And they were great stones. Josephus and other authorities say that those stones were huge, enormous, and fantastic. The Temple was one of the great wonders of the world and the disciples were impressed with it. Why did they point out the stones? They’ve seen them many times before. It’s possibly because Jesus had just said,

“Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.” -Matthew 23:38

He told the Jews that their house, the Temple, is not God’s house. Earlier in His ministry, it was, “My Father’s house.” He said, “Don’t make my Father’s house a house a merchandise.” That was the Temple. He’s no longer calling it His Father’s house. The Jews have rejected Jesus. He’s going to be crucified within days and no longer calls it My Father’s house. He says this is your house, it’s all yours. God doesn’t own it anymore. Your house is empty, desolate. It’s abandoned.

Now, it may be because of that statement that the disciples said, “But Lord, look at these stones! Why would God ever abandon this beautiful house?” And His answer was, “Well, do you see that? I’ll tell you the day is coming when not one of these stones shall be left standing on another. They’re all going thrown down.”

That actually happened. The Romans attacked Israel and were in a bloody war with the Israelites for three and a half years beginning in 66 AD and ending in 70 AD. In 70 AD the Temple was destroyed and burned by the Romans. Every stone was taken down. What Jesus predicted came true in the year 70 AD. The Bible doesn’t record it. History records it. It’s known to be a fact.

Now, we find that the disciples come to Him, and they have a couple of questions for Him. This is where it gets a little tricky. In verse three.

And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be?

That’s the first question,

And what will be the sign of your sign of your coming, and of the end of the age? (NKJV)

Now, “when will these things be” must refer to what He predicted. They wouldn’t just say these things without some kind of a reference, without some kind of an antecedent. He had just said the Temple would be destroyed, leveled, not one stone to be left on another. The only way to understand their question would be, “When is the Temple going to be leveled like you just said? When will this be? And what will be the sign of your coming in at the end of the age?” Now here’s where we should look at the parallels in Mark and in Luke. The same story is in Mark 13 in verses one and two, the same things we just looked at. He walks out of the Temple, and the disciples comment on the stones, He predicts they’re gonna be thrown down in verse three. It says,

 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives over against the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew asked him privately,

Now, as He sat on the Mount of Olives opposite the Temple, Peter, James, John and Andrew asked him privately, not all His disciples, four of His disciples came to Him privately and asked Him privately, Tell us when will these things be.” That’s the same first question we found in Matthew 24:3, but then their second question is worded differently.

and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled?

in Matthew, it says the sign of your coming and of the end of the age (world in the KJV), here it has, “What will be the sign when all these things will be fulfilled?” So you have the expression “these things” in both places. When will these things, the destruction of the Temple be, and what sign will there be that these things, the destruction of the Temple will be soon fulfilled? They want a general time frame and they want some kind of warning sign. It’s interesting that in Mark they asked about the same subject two questions, when will it be? Give us some kind of a time frame and what sign might we look for to know that it’s coming soon?

So far all three Gospels agree on that first question and what sign will there be. The term “these things” obviously refers to what He had predicted. Now, if you look at Matthew 24 again in verse 34, Jesus said, “Assuredly I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away until all these things come to pass.” Now, they said, “When will these things be?” his answer was this generation will not pass before these things be before these things happen. He’s answering their question directly. They asked for a time frame and He gave them one.

Now, when I was younger I thought that this was not talking about things that happened in the first century. I thought these were things still unfulfilled in our future. I figured that when He said this generation will not pass, He didn’t really mean that that generation would not pass, His own generation. My teachers actually told me that what He meant was the generation that begins to see these things start happening will not pass until it all happens. So He had not really given them an answer to the question of when shall these things be. He’s not telling them when they’ll be, He’s just saying when it starts to happen whenever that might be, it’ll happen within a span of a generation. But if that’s what He meant and he was talking about some future generation, one might think that He would say that generation will not pass rather than this generation will not pass, especially in view of the fact that about five other times in Matthew previous to this, he’s used the expression “this generation” and in each case He was talking about his own contemporaries like I’d be talking about this generation, people living at this time. “This generation” in all the other occurrences in Matthew refers to the generation that saw John the Baptist and saw Jesus and rejected them both. They said about John the Baptist, “He’s got a demon.” And about Jesus, “Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners.” That’s what this generation is saying. You can look at the places where He said all these things.

In Matthew 23:35-36 He said,

That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.  Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

In Matthew 16:28 He said,

Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

Before they see this, that’s the same thing as saying this generation will not pass away. Some people living in this generation will not yet be dead. So there’s every reason to believe that Jesus is indeed giving a timeframe when he says this generation will not pass.

But the other question, and it did happen by the way 40 years later. How could it be more precise? He made the prediction in 30 AD it was absolutely fulfilled in 70 AD, 40 years later. If He is saying that that generation would live to see the destruction of the Temple, it is the most specific and accurate prophecy we have on record of Jesus ever making of something that didn’t wasn’t fulfilled in His own lifetime. That happened in the very timeframe He said. So I’m of the opinion that when Jesus said this generation will not pass till all these things are fulfilled, He was talking about what they asked Him about which is a nice thing to do, it’s a polite thing to do if someone asks you a question.

Jesus, by the way, had not mentioned to them the end of the world. He only mentioned that the Temple would be destroyed, not one stone be left standing on another. They don’t have any predictions from Him about the end of the world here.

He says in verse 15,

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand: Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: – Matthew 24:15-17)

Now, He says there is a sign you can look for. It is the sign of the abomination of desolation. We have that same expression used in Mark 13 in the parallel discourse, and this expression “the abomination of desolation” is clearly taken from Daniel 9:27. As Jesus says in Mark 13:14-15:

But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains: And let him that is on the housetop not go down into the house, neither enter therein, to take any thing out of his house:

Why? Because the very danger that’s going to cause the Temple to be dismantled is going to be dangerous for everybody in Judaea. So when you see this, get out of there! I’m giving you some sign that you will see that this take place. You’ll notice that both Matthew and Mark have it, “When you see the abomination of desolation” and then in parentheses, it says, “Let him who reads understand.” Like it may be that the reader might have trouble understanding this. I hope you’ll understand what Jesus is talking about here. Well, “abomination of desolation” is a very Hebraic statement from Daniel chapter nine verse 27. Luke was writing to a Greek man who probably had no familiarity with Daniel. And Luke, when he comes to the very same place in the narrative, changes it, you would say Interprets it or paraphrases it because Luke knew what He meant. I believe Matthew and Mark knew what He meant too, but Matthew and Mark weren’t sure their audience would know what He meant because they’d say in parentheses, “Let him who reads understand” like maybe you won’t. This is hard to understand. What I’m talking about Daniel spoke of, the abomination of desolation. I hope you can understand. Well, Luke just assumed his reader Theophilus, a Greek guy wouldn’t understand, so instead of saying that, he just kind of paraphrased it so that he could understand! You find that in Luke 21 verse 20 this is the very point in the discourse where Mark and Matthew say, “When you see the abomination of desolation.” In Luke 21:20 it says, “When you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. Then flee to the mountains,” he says, just like Matthew and Mark said to flee the mountains. When you see the abomination of desolation, Luke says when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, its desolation is near. This is the abomination that’s going to bring about its desolation, and it’s time for you to flee.

In Daniel 9:26 and 27, it says that the Messiah is going to be killed and then the people of the prince who is to come is going to come destroy the city of Jerusalem and the sanctuary of the Temple. So Daniel in the the next verse refers to that as the abomination that causes desolation.

Daniel 9:26a  And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary…;

Daniel 9:27b  …and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate,

In Matthew 24:3, in the King James version, it reads, “What shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world.” Well, no wonder people have read this passage and think it is about the end of the world! But Jesus had not predicted the end of the world, only the end of the Temple which was the end of the Jewish age or what we call the second Temple era. The disciples and all their ancestors for the previous 1400 years had lived in the age of the law, the age of the Mosaic covenant. The destruction of the Temple is the end of that era, and the end of the era meant that’s the end of the age, the age that they were living in, and the age that they always lived in and their ancestors had.

Now you can see, when we think of the second coming of Christ we immediately think of His second coming at the literal end of the world. Now, they (the Gospel writers) didn’t say the end of the world, they said the the end of the eon which is age. so the King James version was a little confusing by translating the end of the age to the end of the world because they probably were not thinking of the end of the world, or maybe they were. Maybe they thought the destruction of the Temple since they knew nothing beyond that, maybe they thought that’d be the end of the world. Maybe they did. I can’t say what they thought or didn’t think. But according to Mark and Luke, they weren’t asking about the end of the world but about the destruction of the Temple specifically.

Remember, the disciples at this point didn’t even know yet that Jesus was leaving much less coming back. When we hear of Jesus coming, we hear it from the framework of He’s been gone a long time and we want Him back, we can’t wait till Jesus comes because He’s not here and we want Him to be here. As they knew His next thing He’s going to do is go set up His kingdom in Jerusalem. They didn’t know He’d be crucified. He told them but their ears were dull of hearing. They didn’t understand what He said. When He got crucified it blew their minds. It was totally unexpected, even unexpected of His resurrection. Even after He was resurrected they still didn’t believe it even though Jesus had predicted several times “I’m gonna die, I’m gonna rise again the third day.” That just didn’t register. If they asked, what would be the sign of your coming, it’s very unlikely that they were thinking in terms of what we call the second coming of Christ because they didn’t know there was going to be a second coming. They didn’t know there’s going to be going away. I think it took them by surprise.

When He was caught up in Acts chapter 1 a cloud received Him out of their sight, and two angels had to say to them, “Well, He’s going to come back. Why are you looking at Him? This same Jesus that you saw go up, He’s going to come back in the same way.” That was probably the first time they realized there is actually going to be a second coming because until He died and disappeared into the clouds they thought He’s already here. He was but He went away. They did not have in their minds a frame of reference of what we call the second coming yet because He was still there the first time, and for all they knew, He would be perpetually.

In Zechariah 14 it talks about the destruction of Jerusalem.

Zechariah 14:1-2  Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

Now when it says the residue of the people shall not be cut off, they won’t go into captivity. It doesn’t say half, it says residue, the remnant. Half of them will go into captivity. Almost half of them were wiped out by the Romans but the remnant which was the believers in Jerusalem, the Jewish Church, escaped. And they remain citizens of the true Jerusalem. They have not been cut off from the city.

All the Jews who rejected Christ were cut off. They either went into captivity or were slaughtered in 70 AD. Christians fled and got away and continued to be the citizens of Zion. They’re not cut off. It says that in Hebrews chapter 12:22-23.

But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

The new Jerusalem is the spiritual Jerusalem of the church in Hebrews chapter 12, and that’s what Paul means also in Galatians 4 when he says the Jerusalem that is above is free which is the mother of us all. He means the Church is the mother of us all, God’s children.

I think when Jesus said some of you standing here will not taste death until you see the Son of Man coming, I believe He was probably referring to the Roman armies coming against Jerusalem because Jesus predicted several times that that was going to happen. In Luke chapter 19:42-44, He wept over the city of Jerusalem and said,

If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes. For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side, And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.

Jesus in the end of his ministry made a lot of references to the destruction of Jerusalem. In the Jewish prophetic verbiage that would be Him coming just like YHWH came on clouds against Egypt, but it was really the Assyrian armies.

I do believe in a future second coming but what I’m saying is that when the disciples said what will be the sign of your coming and the end of this age, I believe that Mark and Luke have paraphrased what they said because they use Jewish idioms. Matthew is the only gospel written to a Jewish audience. He retains Jewish idioms that Jesus used more than any other Gospel. Mark does so a little less and Luke much less.

There’s a part of it that some people think probably didn’t happen and that’s in Matthew 24 verses 29 through 31. Let me read this section:

Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

The imagery in that statement immediately strikes us as the future, the end of the world, the second coming of Christ. He sends His angels to gather people in, they see Him in the clouds, cosmic disturbances, sun, moon and stars going dark. Did those things literally happen? Some of them amazingly did, but not all of them happened literally. The ones that did not, happened in the sense that the prophets used that terminology. We as American Christians, unless we study the prophets a lot, are not that familiar with the prophetic language.

Let me show you something Isaiah said in Isaiah 13. He’s prophesying the fall of the Babylonian Empire to the Medes and the Persians. This happened in 539 BC. He names the Medes in particular as being involved in this, but the Medes and the Persians together were. And as it talks about the destruction of Babylon it says in verse 10:

Isaiah 13:10  For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

Well, that didn’t all literally happen when Babylon fell to the Medes and the Persians but it was kind of the end of the world for them. But it’s just poetic language.

If you turn to Isaiah 34 there’s a prophecy against Edom. Edom isn’t a nation anymore. The last Edomite that history knows of was Herod the Great. The Edomites were enemies of the Jews in Old Testament history but they were taken into Babylon three years after Jerusalem was Jerusalem went into Babylon in 586 BC. Three years later in 583 BC, the Edomites were taken into captivity into Babylon. They never recovered. Some of them came back or just remained in the land but they were subsumed in the inter-testamental period into southern Judah and put under Jewish law by force. So they ceased to be a nation anymore. The last of them that’s known to have been in existence was Herod. This is an extinct nation but this predicts the destruction of Edom.

It says this in Isaiah 34:4-6:

And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree. For my sword shall be bathed in heaven: behold, it shall come down upon Idumea (Edom), and upon the people of my curse, to judgment. The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, …

We can see these talk about the destruction of Edom. Bozrah is the capital of Edom. He’s talking about something that happened almost 600 years before Christ. He describes it as the host of heaven being dissolved, the heavens being rolled up like a scroll, all the hosts shall fall down as the leaf falls from the vine, that is, all the stars will fall like a leaf falls from the vine. And so what we have here is of course the language of a cataclysm to be sure, but not literal. This is the way the prophets talk when something very very bad permanently happens to a nation. That’s how they talk about it.

Jesus said those things will happen too in that generation. Did they literally happen? Well, not exactly, but they happened in the same sense that they happened in Isaiah 19 or Isaiah 13 or Isaiah 34 or in some of the other passages that use this language.

We didn’t look at Ezekiel 32 which talks about the same thing. When Egypt fell to the Babylonians it talks about how the sun and the moon and stars were darkened, and there’s other places like that. So what we have is when Jesus said, after the tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened the moon will not give its light, the stars will fall from the heaven, everything there is language from Isaiah or some other prophetic passage which in their original context refer to the destruction of some nation of some kind. In this case that apparently is Jerusalem and the Jewish nation.

It says the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven. Now, what is the sign of the Son of man? A few lines later He says, And they will see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven.” It says, “The sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the land will mourn.” The word “earth” can be translated as land. “And they will see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven in power and great glory.”

Now the sign of the Son of man in heaven is a term used only here. We don’t have any other passage to clarify what it means, but one possible meaning is it’s a sign that the Son of man is in fact in Heaven. The reason I say that is because, to the Jews, the Son of man in heaven calls to mind Daniel chapter 7 verse 13. I think it is where he says:

Daniel I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

So He’s going up, He’s going up to God. It’s the ascension of Christ from the Mount of Olives. It’s what’s referred to as the Son of Man. Daniel is on the other side. He sees the Heavenly Throne. He sees the Son of Man come up through the clouds. The disciples saw Him disappearing into the clouds. Daniel is on their side. He sees Him come out through the clouds to the Ancient days. He was given the throne as Jesus sat down at the right hand of God when He ascended. The coming of the Son of man is an expression that comes from that verse. And so He could be saying, “You’ll see the sign that the Son of man has in fact come in that sense you’ll see it now.

One argument that has been made is that the very fact that the Temple is destroyed and the Jewish system that crucified Christ will be the sign that God has vindicated Him, that Jesus is reigning now. He’s not on the cross anymore, He’s not their victim, He’s their judge as He sits at the throne at the right hand of God.

It’s not clear entirely what this refers to, the sign of the Son of man in heaven when it says “the tribes of the earth.” Again, the word “earth” is in the Greek. It’s the word that means earth or land. Usually, it’s Israel that’s divided into tribes, not the planet. The planet is usually divided into nations. Israel is divided into tribes. So to say “the tribes of the land will mourn” makes plenty of sense especially since it’s a term that comes from Zechariah 12:10 which talks about all the inhabitants of Jerusalem mourning and seems to be a reference to that. So it’s the people of Israel in the land of Israel that are mourning because of this. They see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven. Well, Egypt saw God coming in the clouds of heaven but not literally. It saw the Assyrians coming. That was God coming in the clouds. Israel saw the Romans coming and that was Jesus sending them like Isaiah talks about. They saw that in the Romans.

But then there’s this verse 31 He will send His angels with the great sound of a trumpet, and they’ll gather together His elect from the four winds as the four compass points from one end of heaven to the other, that is, from one horizon to the other horizon where He is gathering them to. Who are these angels that are gathering them? The Greek word which is translated as angels is the word in Greek that generally means messengers. In the Bible, it often means special messengers sent from God from heaven. When we find “angel” in the New Testament, usually we’re thinking of a supernatural angel. It is a translation of the Greek word angelos. But the same word is the ordinary word for messenger, human messenger. John the Baptist sent two messengers from prison to ask Jesus, “Are you the one who’s to come or not?” James talks about how Rahab received the messengers and sent them away safely.

Angelos is the word for human messengers. What if we just translate this as the Greek allows, “He’ll send out His messengers, the apostles, the evangelists, the missionaries, and they’ll gather His elect into His body, into the Church. It doesn’t say they’re going to go away to another planet after Jerusalem falls. The Gospel is no longer focused on the Jews, it’s now an international message. The messengers of the Gospel go out and they gather His elect from all the parts of the world which has been what’s going on for the last two thousand years.

Now, all I’ve tried to do is show you that everything Jesus said here has parallels in many cases, multiple parallels in the Old Testament that use the same language, the same imagery, and are not talking about the end of the world or a literal Second Coming of Christ. Let me say only one more thing. I’ve only dealt with the first part of the discourse, I’m not going to deal in detail with the other part, but the part that parallels Luke 17 is the part that talks about the days of Noah and the one shall be taken on the other left, which people all have associated with the Second Coming usually. I don’t think it’s part of the same subject as the earlier one because He says at the end of this discourse, and Mark and Luke end with this, He says, “Heaven and earth will pass away but my words will never pass away. But of that day and hour no one knows.” Now, when He says heaven and earth will pass away but no one knows when, I think He’s referring to the end of the world. He’s contrasting it with the fall of Jerusalem. Well, I can tell you when that’s going to be. This generation won’t pass before that (the fall of Jerusalem) happens. The end of the world nobody but God knows. The angels don’t know, I don’t know, He says nobody knows, only the Father knows.

Likewise, He gives signs to look for for the fall of Jerusalem, but He gives no signs for the end of the world. He said it’ll be like the days of Noah before the flood came. People ate, drank, got married, bought and sold, and they didn’t know, didn’t have a clue, until the day that Noah and the Ark and the flood came and took them all away. There were no signs. There was Noah’s preaching that might be seen as a sign, but there was none until the day that the flood came. they had no clue. They were doing the same things people do when they didn’t expect to die that day, getting married, buying selling, and doing things like eating and drinking. If you thought you were going to die in a cataclysm later this evening, you might choose not to have a meal. You might choose not to follow through on your marriage plans. You might not buy anything significantly because you don’t expect to be here more than another hour or two.

What Jesus said is when the flood came, and the same thing is true of Lot leaving Sodom. Until the day the judgment came they didn’t have a clue. They’re just doing all the stuff people always do when they don’t expect to die that day, and there are no signs that this is going to happen. It just happens to catch them by surprise. And that’s when Jesus said there’s going to be two sleeping in one bed, one would be taken and the other left and so forth.

When I was younger, I was always under the impression this is about Christians taken up in the Rapture and the wicked left behind for the tribulation, but if you look at the passage in Luke 17 which is the parallel passage, and I’ll make this very brief, this is where this prediction is found that Matthew I think incorporates into his version of the Olivet Discourse, but he’s now talking about another subject which transitioned by Jesus saying heaven and earth is going to pass away but no knows when that’s going to be.

In Luke chapter 17, it says in verses 34-37:

I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

Or, wherever the corpse is the birds will come to eat it. Now He’s just said two people being in very close proximity, one to be taken the other left. They said, Where? Where are they taken to? Well, the birds will find them easily enough. Wherever the corpses are there are birds. The ones who are taken were not raptured, they’re dead. And in the parallel of Matthew 24, it says as in the days of Noah they ate and drank and did all that stuff and did not know till the flood came and took them all away. So shall it be that’s the coming of the Son of man. One will be taken and the other left. The people who were taken away in the flood were the wicked. They weren’t raptured, they were just killed. “Taken away” is just a euphemism for killed. And here we have the disciples asking, “Where Lord? Where are they taken?” Well, wherever the corpses are there will be birds. To find the forest fires look for the smoke. Do you want to find the dead bodies? Look for the vultures or the eagles.

And what I believe He means by that is that when Jesus comes, the wicked will be judged. It says in Second Thessalonians 1:8:

In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

In Psalm 91:7-8 it says,

A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee. 8  Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.

The wicked are judged, and the righteous remain. When Jesus comes, He’s going to judge the wicked and the righteous will be spared. But I’m not going to go into that in detail. I’m only going to say those features did not apply to 70 AD. Before 70 AD happened, all the Christians had fled from Jerusalem. The righteous had fled across the Jordan to another mountainous area called Pella. Everyone in Jerusalem during the siege and the fall of Jerusalem were the wicked. There wasn’t one righteous one unrighteous in close proximity. There will be when Jesus comes back. There wasn’t in 70 AD.

Furthermore, when 70 AD happened, they weren’t getting married, eating and drinking, they were starving in the siege. They were eating each other in starvation. But that’s not what Jesus described. I doubt they were getting married as there was total havoc during the siege. Buying and selling? I don’t think that was going on. Jesus describes people involved in peacetime activities as if they don’t know they’re in danger at the time that it comes. That was not the case in 70 AD and for these reasons I don’t believe that the material in Luke 17 which Matthew incorporates at the end of the Olivet Discourse, I don’t think that’s also about 70 AD. I think there are two subjects here, and the first one is summarized by Jesus and this generation will not pass before all these things take place, and that was the question the disciples asked about the destruction of Jerusalem. The other part is the future when Jesus said heaven and earth will pass away but no one knows when that’s going to be.

And so that could be why many people find the discourse confusing. Matthew has taken two judgment discourses of Jesus, and put them together. In the transition between the two, it’s Him saying heaven and earth will pass away but my words will never pass away. That’s when He transitions from the destruction of the Temple where not one stone is left, He transitions to the end of the cosmos when Jesus comes back.

So that’s what I understand now. If that’s new to you, and it probably is to many of you, just know it’s not really new information. This view was the view Eusebius the church historian in 325 AD quoted from the Olivet Discourse and said this was fulfilled when the Romans came and destroyed Jerusalem. So at least from the early 300s the Church recognized that Jesus was talking about the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD.

We may not have heard it because our teachers don’t teach that view but there are plenty of teachers that do. They’re just not maybe teaching on the radio or places that you’d run into them, but it’s a very early view of the Church and a very exegetically sound one.

END OF THE LECTURE BY STEVE GREGG

I learned so much from this! I never heard before that Matthew incorporated another discourse not related to the fall of Jerusalem! No wonder the Olivet Discourse in Matthew is so misunderstood! Parts of it are talking about the end of the world, but verses 29-31 are not talking about the end of the world or the rapture!

All the work I put into transcribing this was worth it because I didn’t catch those points so clearly when I heard Steve Gregg’s talk in the video. Praise the Lord Jesus for the truth of His Word!

The transcription doesn’t include the last 30 minutes of the video which is a question and answer session.

I believe this picture may depict an accurate description of 1 Thessalonians 4. But will it happen before a great tribulation? That’s the subject of this article.

This post is about comparing popular doctrines about what Christians and evangelicals call “the rapture” to what the Bible actually says. The rapture is also called, “The blessed hope.” What do teachers of the rapture mean by that? They mean that Jesus is going to take to Heaven His followers just before the Antichrist starts to persecute them in the Great Tribulation at the end of time! But does the Bible actually teach that?

My Bible says,

Revelation 7:14 And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation,

2 Timothy 3:12  Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

The Bible is its own best commentator. It’s a mistake to read things into Scripture based on our cognitive bias or based only on what some preacher says the Bible passage says. That’s the mistake I made for 30 plus years. I trusted what my pastor taught me only to find later he himself admitted his interpretation of Endtime Scripture was only a theory which he got from C.I. Scofield!

What is the Rapture?

The word “rapture” is not found in the Bible. It apparently was coined by John Nelson Darby in the 19th century. The Bible calls the second coming of Christ, “the day of the Lord.”

1 Thessalonians 5:2  For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

2 Peter 3:10  But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Wikipedia says,

The rapture is an eschatological concept held by some Christians, particularly within branches of American evangelicalism, consisting of an end-time event when all Christian believers who are alive, along with resurrected believers, will rise “in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air.”

The Bible does talk about Jesus coming for His own at the end of time.

15  For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. — 1 Thessalonicans 4:15-17.

But when does this happen? The most popular doctrine among American evangelical Christians is that it will happen just before a 7 year tribulation period. Where do they get this idea? From John Nelson Darby of the 19th century. He taught that Christ would return before a final great 7-year tribulation to save His elect from persecution by the Antichrist. C.I. Scofield picked up Darby’s teaching and put in in the footnotes of the Scofield Reference Bible.

My Bible tells me just the opposite!

Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
Matthew 13:30

When does this happen? On “the day of the Lord”! The day of the second coming of Christ! The Bible says the rejectors of Christ will be taken away first! And after that resurrection will happen and the believers in Christ will be taken up to be with the Lord in the clouds!

On what Scriptures do John Nelson Darby and C.I. Scofield base their pretribulation rapture doctrine on? If you believe in a pretribulation rapture of the Church, that is also my question to you. You can write the Bible verses you believe teach a pretribulation rapture in the comments section. When you do that, please remember that the cardinal rule of Bible interpretation is always to interpret the verse in the context of the other verses before and after it.

Even if you believe the latter part of Matthew 24 is talking about end-time events, verses 29 to 31 make it clear Christians will go through a period of tribulation.

29  Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30  And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31  And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

For more about the Olivet Discourse of Matthew chapter 24, please see Futurist Interpretation of Matthew 24 Exposed as Folly by John Gill

Just imagine visiting a country where believers in Christ are undergoing severe persecution and telling them, “Don’t worry! Jesus will come soon and save you from the Great Tribulation!” You might hear the following, “What can be greater tribulation than seeing my friends, members of my family, and fellow believers in Christ killed right before my eyes?”

If you cannot use the Bible to explain your doctrines, you either don’t know those doctrines well enough, or you picked them up from some preacher you like and never took the time to search the Scriptures for yourself to see if the doctrines are biblically sound.

Further reading on this subject: https://www.ucg.org/world-news-and-prophecy/the-rapture-a-popular-but-false-doctrine

A White Nationalist

I felt inspired to post this in the light of rising ethnic violence and hate crimes since the war in Gaza.

The followers of the Lord Jesus Christ should not have any racial, ethnic or nationalistic prejudice toward others! The Bible says,

Even the Old Testament says we should respect people of different nations and ethnic groups, and especially when they are our neighbors!

I believe racism is a product of Darwinian evolution, the notion that some races evolved more than others and are therefore superior. That’s what Hitler believed in and it cost the lives of millions of people. He actually thought he was benefiting humanity by killing off people he considered to be inferior! The Bible tells me there is only one race on earth. It’s called the human race.

I was therefore very surprised when I had an email exchange with a lady in Canada named Linda, apparently a white nationalist, who called herself a Christian. I was shocked to learn of her beliefs! Below are some of them in her own words:

• Shem was the father of the white race. And Abraham was his descendant. The families of Jacob were all white races.
• Jesus Christ was a WHITE man,
• Even white Russians are from Shem.

The Bible disproves her views so clearly:

Genesis 10:2 The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras.

From http://www.bible-truth.org/GEN10.HTM:

• Gomer: People living in areas of the Black Sea, Germany and Wales.
• Magog: Reference to “Gog” referring to Georgia, a region near the Black Sea
  and Scythians.
• Madai: Medes (Persia), Japheth through Madai father of peoples of India.
• Javan: People of Greece and Cyprus.
• Tubal: Russian, city of Tobolsk.
• Meshech: Russian, (Name Muskovi) city of Moscow.
• Tiras Thracians, possibly the Etruscans of Italy.

And according to http://www.freemaninstitute.com/RTGham.htm, Japheth’s 7 sons are:

1. Javan (Greece, Romans, Romance — French, Italians, Spanish, Portuguese)
2. Magog (Scythians, Slavs, Russians, Bulgarians, Bohemians, Poles, Slovaks, Croatians)
3. Madai (Indians & Iranic: Medes, Persians, Afghans, Kurds)
4. Tubal (South of Black Sea)
5. Tiras (Thracians, Teutons, Germans, Scandinavian, Anglo-Saxon, Jutes)
6. Meshech (Russia)
7. Gomer (Celtic)

We clearly see that Japheth and his sons are the fathers of white nations. There are dark-skinned people living in India, but there are also white Indians as well.

Genesis 10:22 The children of Shem; Elam, and Asshur, and Arphaxad, and Lud, and Aram.

1. Elam (Arabia)
2. Asshur (Assyria)
3. Lud (Lydians)
4. Aram (Aramaic, Armenia, Mesopotamia, Syria)
5. Arphaxad (From which Abraham descended)
(Ref: http://www.freemaninstitute.com/RTGham.htm,)

These nations are all darker skin people.

Shem was apparently of darker skin. He could not have been the father of the white peoples as some neo-Nazis claim!

Abraham is a son of Shem (Genesis 11:12-26). Jesus’ ancestry is of the tribe of Judah, the son of Jacob (Israel) son of Issac, and son of Abraham, The sons of Shem were not white, therefore Jesus could not have been white.

I’m posting this because I hope others who hold these mistaken beliefs may change their minds to learn what the Bible says. I honestly did not know that some White Nationalists believe that Jesus Christ was white and that Shem, not Japheth, was the father of the white race!

It turns out this false doctrine came from Nazi Germany and was taught to Protestant churches.

During the Third Reich, German Protestant theologians, motivated by racism and tapping into traditional Christian anti-Semitism, redefined Jesus as an Aryan and Christianity as a religion at war with Judaism. (Ref: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/8820.html)

It was a Nazi trick to deceive the Protestants to accept white supremacy by saying Jesus was white!

Offering Linda Scriptural evidence from the Bible that Shem could not have been the father of the white race only elicited from her false accusations, name calling and mockery. She wouldn’t even acknowledge that Japheth, not Shem was the father of all the Russians though the Bible clearly says in Genesis chapter 10 that Magog, Tubal, and Meshech were sons of Japheth! She only got angrier and angrier and said she wasted her time with me. What does it prove? It proves you cannot reason with an emotional and angry woman!. 🙂

Of course, I’ve had tons of experience facing the wrath of a woman, usually because of my errors and failings. God knows I tried to be patient with her. I did not resort to either mockery or name-calling like she did with me. Race or nationalism is not an emotional issue with me. I ran into lots of nationalists when I lived in Russia from 1994-97 and tried to avoid trouble with them. They were offended at my very presence in their country! Most Russians are not like them. I like to be matter-of-fact with people and meekly present the evidence. I stood on the authority of the Bible and gave her specific Scriptures. How many Scriptures did she share with me to back her claims? Not one.

White nationalism and all its subgroups is yet another trip off and trick of Satan to get people sidetracked. True Christians are not supposed to hold an allegiance to any nation more than their allegiance to the Kingdom of God. That includes ethnic identity as well.

The pre-tribulation rapture is the doctrine that 7 years before Jesus returns, Jesus will rapture or secretly snatch away the Church into Heaven. And as soon as He does that, the seven-year tribulation will happen and then the very worst things that ever happen in history on Earth will take place for those who are left behind. This is what the followers of Dispensationalism also known as Dispensational Premillennialism believe. I don’t.

Maybe you have never heard the term “Dispensationalism” before, but if you believe the doctrine of a pre-tribulation rapture, it means you are a Dispensationalist and a follower of the 19th-century teachings of John Nelson Darby and 20th-century C.I. Scofield whether you know it or not. Darby is known as the father of Dispensationalism and Scofield was the promoter of it in his famous Scofield Reference Bible. The Dallas Theological Seminary was founded on the doctrines of Dispensationalism.

The Dallas Theological Seminary’s website says:

A premillennial, dispensational understanding of Scripture and the training of students in the exposition of the Word became central to the foundation of the seminary.

Needless to say, The Dallas Theological Seminary has had a great influence on the eschatological beliefs of American evangelicals, and it’s not been good.

Let’s see what a famous preacher had to say about the Rapture:

“The Lord does not come to the world at the time of the Rapture but only reveals Himself to the members of His Body. At the time of His resurrection, He was only seen by those who believed on Him. Pilate and the High Priest, and those who crucified Him, did not know that He was risen. So it will be at the time of the Rapture. The world will not know that He has been here, and will have no knowledge of Him until He comes with the members of His Body, at the close of the Tribulation.” Billy Sunday

The renowned early 20th-century preacher Billy Sunday doesn’t quote any Scripture to back up his statement of a secret rapture of the Church. What if he’s wrong? And if so, if you believe in a pre-tribulation rapture, what will happen to your faith in the Lord Jesus and His Word if Christians are again persecuted like the early Church was?

Another doctrine that is part of Dispensational Premillennialism is the Church and the nation of Israel are two separate entities that God has managed via two distinct plans. This led to Christian Zionism, the doctrine that God is not through with physical Israel. Christian Zionists support Israel in its current battle with Hamas even if it means the total slaughter of all Palestinians in Gaza, including Palestinian Christians!

John Hagee, an evangelical pastor and influential founder of Christians United for Israel said that he hopes the Israeli Defense Force turns the Gaza Strip into a parking lot! He also said:

“God is getting ready to defend Israel in such a supernatural way it’s going to take the breath out of the lungs of the dictators on planet Earth but we are living on the cusp of the greatest most supernatural series of events the world has ever seen ready or not.”

But what if Israel is defeated in this war? What if Iran nukes Israel and wipes it off the face of the earth?

Dr Michael Brown, a Messianic Jewish scholar, says,

“This is not about ethnic superiority. It’s not about the Jewish people being better than anyone else. It’s not about the Jewish people being superior. It’s about God’s faithfulness. This is a matter of the integrity of God. If God cannot keep his promises to Israel you have no confidence that he can keep his promises to you, the Church.

But God has already kept all His promises to Israel! A quote from Steve Gregg on Are The Church and Israel Two Different Peoples of God?

The promises to Israel belong to you, the Church, and this also means that the future glory of Israel belongs to us. This means as well that the history of the Bible doesn’t have two different themes, God’s work in Israel and God’s work in the Church. It has one theme. That theme is redemption. It is God’s glory in Christ, the redemption of the true Israel. That’s the whole theme of the Bible. This means that the fulfillment of the Old Testament is not a future millennial Israelite kingdom. The fulfillment of the Old Testament as the New Testament teaches everywhere is Christ and His Church. And this means that the Church doesn’t share the dignity of being the people of God with another entity.

In one of Pastor Steve Gregg’s videos, he says,

“I spoke with one of the guys in my Bible study group today. He is the most mature of the bunch and a solid understanding of the Word and is a great Bible teacher, but he told me, If Israel loses the war, he’s done. Meaning God’s promises to Israel did not come true and if that’s false then it’s all false. If people’s understanding of eschatology can blow their faith out of the water, that’s scary stuff!”

The entire point of this article is this: If current events go against what we believe the Bible says will happen, it’s not because God is unfaithful and the Bible is wrong, it means our interpretation of Bible prophecy was wrong. When persecution against Bible-believing Christians comes, will your faith be shaken? It won’t be if you realize pre-tribulation rapture is a doctrine of man, not the Bible. If Israel loses the war and gets destroyed by her enemies, will your faith be shaken? It won’t be if you realize the Church is true Israel!

We must never doubt that God always keeps His promises!

One of God’s promises to Israel was punishment through affliction by their enemies if they disobeyed!

The prophet Jeremiah in the book of Lamentations was talking about the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple by the Babylonians, and the resultant captivity of the Jews in 587 BC. The “horn” of their enemies represented their enemy’s power over them. After 70 years King Cyrus let the Jews return to their homeland. This was in preparation for God’s promise for the Messiah to be born in Bethlehem. The Jews had Jesus crucified and 40 years later God sent the armies of Rome to destroy Jerusalem and the Temple as His final judgment on the Jews for rejecting His Son their Messiah. Are the people in the modern state of Israel any better today? Judaism today is based on the Kabbalah which is based on witchcraft. Most Jews in Israel are secular and do not worship God. Tel Aviv is officially the gay capital of Israel and perhaps even the entire world. If Israel is defeated in this war with Hamas, my faith in God’s promises will certainly not be shaken. God promised them punishment for disobedience. Moreover, the Bible tells me that the only true children of God today are those who hold faith in Jesus Christ.

The influence of John Nelson Darby’s doctrines in the evangelical world today is a deep subject and covered more fully in other articles on this website. If you don’t agree with this article, it means you need to do more research. The other articles on this website may help you.

This is a partial repost from Pope Francis demands global tyranny and offers his services as chaplain to our oligarchy The author, Mr. John Zmirak, quotes from Pope Francis and gives his comments about them.

A List of Demands Scrawled in Red Crayon

Read the list of demands below. Its tone of escalating crisis and impending doom recalls that of the apocalyptic Medieval preachers who led mobs of Flagellants on pogroms. These are not reasoned proposals emerging from any tradition of “Catholic social teaching.” They are elements of a rant, which some bearded radical would rattle off to his comrades while pounding on the table of a fly-ridden coffee shop. For a pope to claim divine authority to unleash such a crusade amounts to the most blatantly political power-grab of any pope in history. The ostentatiously “humble” Pope Francis has left Renaissance land pirates like warrior Pope Julius II looking like little boys playing soldiers.

After each of these hostage demands, I will comment briefly, on behalf of historic Christianity and observable reality.

I ask all the great pharmaceutical laboratories to release the patents. Make a gesture of humanity and allow every country, every people, every human being, to have access to the vaccines. There are countries where only three or four per cent of the inhabitants have been vaccinated.

This is an empty gesture, of course. Francis has worked closely with those same companies to earn countless billions, by helping governments impose vaccine mandates on citizens. Such mandates violate the Nuremberg Principles by forcing experimental medicines on patients. Francis makes no mention whatsoever of the abuse of unborn children, whose pirated organs were cloned to produce or test every one of these vaccines.

In the name of God, I ask financial groups and international credit institutions to allow poor countries to assure “the basic needs of their people” and to cancel those debts that so often are contracted against the interests of those same peoples.

Canceling such debts would simply render such countries unable to ever borrow again. Nor is it governments that meet “the basic needs of their people.” Commanded by God to “earn their bread” in “the sweat of their brow,” that is for people to do themselves.

End Modern Life. Go Back to Your Ancestors’ Villages

In the name of God, I ask the great extractive industries — mining, oil, forestry, real estate, agribusiness — to stop destroying forests, wetlands and mountains, to stop polluting rivers and seas, to stop poisoning food and people.

The only way to stop such use of nature’s resources would be to return to a Medieval-style subsistence economy. Such an economy could not support four-fifths of the population added in the intervening centuries. The rest would have to die off of starvation or disease.

In the name of God, I ask the great food corporations to stop imposing monopolistic systems of production and distribution that inflate prices and end up withholding bread from the hungry.

In which countries do people spend a higher percentage of their income on food than their ancestors? We now feed a population five or six times larger than even existed in 1600, without 80% of the population engaged in subsistence farming.

Turn in Your Guns to the Government

In the name of God, I ask arms manufacturers and dealers to completely stop their activity, because it foments violence and war, it contributes to those awful geopolitical games which cost millions of lives displaced and millions dead.

Of course, a halt in all military expenditures won’t happen. If it did, it would still leave in place massive military infrastructures in the hands of great powers like Russia and China, and tyrannies like North Korea. Here, Francis is simply trying to stop the production of private firearms for citizens in free countries like the U.S.

Let the Elites Censor the Internet

In the name of God, I ask the technology giants to stop exploiting human weakness, people’s vulnerability, for the sake of profits without caring about the spread of hate speech, grooming, fake news, conspiracy theories, and political manipulation.

Pope Francis’ idea of “conspiracy theories,” “fake news,” and “political manipulation” amounts to dissent from his own far-left, globalist agenda. He has repeatedly endorsed government censorship of free political speech on the Internet.

In the name of God, I ask the telecommunications giants to ease access to educational material and connectivity for teachers via the internet so that poor children can be educated even under quarantine.

Global Internet connectivity is expanding rapidly just fine, because companies make money providing it. Notice that Francis here endorses the useless and destructive lockdowns and “quarantine” of healthy young people.

In the name of God, I ask the media to stop the logic of post-truth, disinformation, defamation, slander and the unhealthy attraction to dirt and scandal, and to contribute to human fraternity and empathy with those who are most deeply damaged.

Francis really wants media companies and states to stifle his critics, and critics of his allies at the World Economic Forum — which seek a state-backed takeover of private industry and property.

Leave ISIS Alone

In the name of God, I call on powerful countries to stop aggression, blockades and unilateral sanctions against any country anywhere on earth. No to neo-colonialism. Conflicts must be resolved in multilateral fora such as the United Nations. We have already seen how unilateral interventions, invasions and occupations end up; even if they are justified by noble motives and fine words.

The elites at the United Nations, which can’t even run refugee operations without causing rape epidemics, must be granted total power. Even light-touch interventions such as U.S. aid to Syrian Christians and Kurds fighting against ISIS must be forbidden, for some reason the pope doesn’t specify.

This system, with its relentless logic of profit, is escaping all human control. It is time to slow the locomotive down, an out-of-control locomotive hurtling towards the abyss. There is still time.

This is just the kind of desperate, bug-eyed, end-times fulminating that his fellow socialist the Rev. Jim Jones engaged in at his compound in Guyana, before he forced his followers to swallow the poison Kool-Aid. Like Jones, Pope Francis rejects the most fundamental principle of economics, the profit motive, which makes human cooperation and survival even possible.

This article is based on a talk by Michael W. Hoggard of Bethel Church, Missouri. The video is below the text. I first posted this in 2012 and was inspired to re-post it with more information because of the article I wrote yesterday about the UN Climate summit in the UAE.

The UN Logo is a view of the world from which direction? From the North!

“Mount Zion” is “the holy city, new Jerusalem”, the seat of God’s (the great King’s) Throne and Kingdom , which according to Revelation 21:2 will someday come down from God out of Heaven. It is located “on the sides of the north” showing that the North denotes the heavenly/spiritual realm.

“The UN Logo is all about the conquering of the Northern Army of the Antichrist, and the world coming together to seat the Antichrist (Satan) as the god of this world.” — Pastor Mike Hoggard paraphrased.

God’s Throne is in the North. Satan wants to sit in that throne.

The “image of jealousy” is the Throne of God that Satan wants to sit on!

An overflowing flood of lies from the Mass Media!

Also see: The United Nations: A Luciferian Organization

In light of the current (30 November until 12 December 2023) United Nations Climate Change Conference in UAE, also known as COP 28, I feel led by the Lord to write something about the so-called climate change crisis. COP stands for Conference Of the Parties under the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC). In case you don’t know it, the UN is not our friend.

Christiana Figueres, the Executive Secretary of the UNFCCC, stated in an interview that the Earth is already overburdened with people and that we should look at depopulating the planet.

She also said: (Quotes from https://www.azquotes.com/author/32264-Christiana_Figueres)

We have to get to the point where each individual, each corporation, each community chooses low carbon, because it makes fundamental sense. It should become a no-brainer.

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The transition to a low-carbon economy will be much more painful if we wait until there is a climate crisis before recognizing that more than half of the world’s fossil fuel reserves will have to remain in the ground.

Based on the many things I have heard over the years, the real reason behind the agenda of limiting carbon dioxide into the air is to purposely hurt the economy by increasing the cost of energy. Low-cost energy creates a strong middle-class economy, and this is what the New World Order elite do not want. The middle class has, from the elite’s perspective, too much time to think! Rational thinking leads to awareness of government corruption and abuse of civil rights which results in public protests, something no government wants.

Christiana Figueres confirmed this view by actually admitting that the goal of environmental activists is not to save the world from ecological calamity but to destroy capitalism!

“This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution.”

The middle class in England grew as a result of the Industrial Revolution which began in the late 18th century.

As a group, the middle class saw enormous benefits from the industrial revolution. The growth of new businesses and factories created thousands of new jobs. The middle class itself grew in size as occupations like merchants, shopkeepers and accountants allowed the working class to lift themselves into a higher social strata. – Source: https://www.theclassroom.com/differences-between-wealthy-middle-class-poor-industrial-revolution-17180.html

The Industrial Revolution created great wealth in England through the manufacture and sale of goods. Factories need a lot of energy to operate and that energy came from the low cost petroleum of that time, what the elite call “fossil fuel.” Fuel made from crude petroleum wasn’t taxed then as it is today. It turns out that the origin of petroleum may be abiogenic and not from fossils of decayed organic matter! If so, it may be limitless and the price could go down drastically. But that’s not what the ruling elite want to happen.

Bill Gates in an interview stated his ambitious goal is for the world to decrease CO₂ to zero by year 2050. In the meantime he confesses to being an ‘imperfect messenger’ as he lives in large houses and travels by private jet. He owns four of them which he used for 392 flights last year, more than once per day!

The climate may be changing but it’s not the result of CO₂ emissions. It’s either natural as a result of solar activity and/or it could be malicious weather modification, something the US military learned how to do during the Vietnam War.

Quote from There Is No Climate Emergency, Say 500 Experts in Letter to the United Nations

On the same day last week that Greta Thunberg made an impassioned speech to the United Nations about her fears of a climate emergency, a group of 500 prominent scientists and professionals, led by the CLINTEL (Climate Intelligence) co-founder Guus Berkhout, sent this registered letter to the United Nations Secretary-General stating that there is no climate emergency and climate policies should be designed to benefit the lives of people.

The made points in the letter are listed on CLINTEL’s website:

Those are statements from honest scientists!

I have a scientist friend, Dr. John Gideon Hartnett, who also exposes the UN Climate Change policies as a scam. The following facts are from his Bible Science Forum website: Decarbonise the planet, are they mad?

NASA says the earth is getting greener as a result of more CO₂ emissions!

What does that mean in relation to the United Nations climate change agenda? It means to me purposely decreasing the amount of carbon dioxide into the air will decrease plant growth! There’s even talk about cutting down carbon dioxide in the air by capturing it to permanently storing it underground! Utter madness!

All Christians should pray against COP 28.

Whenever there is worldwide deception, we know Satan is behind it for the Bible says:

Revelation 20:7-8  And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth,…

This is a transcript of an interview by Rick Wiles of TruNews.com with Steven and Jana Ben Nun, Jewish Christians who are the webmasters of Israeli News Live. (I do not know or endorse everything they promote, especially anything dispensational.) They talk about subjects I haven’t covered yet on this website such as the influence of pharisaic Judaism’s influence on evangelical Christian leaders which has had a detrimental effect on churches, especially in America and English-speaking nations. They cover so-called plans of Zionists to eventually subjugate all non-Jews.

Jana & Steven Ben Nun

I haven’t covered the Zionist part of Satan’s conspiracy yet because I think some of it may be Jesuit disinformation to use the Jewish people as scapegoats and shift the blame of what the Jesuits themselves are doing. Some say the American government is owned and controlled by Israel and the Zionist elite. But I see far more Roman Catholics and members of Catholic societies like the Knights of Malta in the US government than Jews. And I believe the Roman Catholic Church corporation is far more powerful in the world than any Zionist organization. Nevertheless, it seems to be a well-documented fact according to what the people in the interview are saying that Hitler cooperated with Zionists! I believe that indicates a high level connection between Zionists and the Vatican. Christian J. Pinto of the NOISE OF THUNDER Radio Show believes there’s a link between the Jesuits and Islam as well. I think he may be right seeing that the Jesuits built an Islamic mosque at Georgetown University!

So who are the enemies of the Gospel and the true born-again believers in Jesus Christ? ALL of Satan’s people! That includes witches, Satanists, Luciferians, Freemasons, the Pope, the Jesuit Superior General, Jesuits, Cardinals, Bishops, some priests, Muslim extremists, false preachers, and Zionists. Some of them may be classified under the generic label of Illuminati. One thing is for sure: None of them accept the Bible as the Word of God which also means they don’t believe that Jesus is the Son of God and that we are saved only through Him. The Devil is using all of them to try to deceive and lead us astray. Jesus has our souls for eternity but we can become unfruitful for God’s Kingdom while on earth by listening to the wrong voices. Let’s not let that happen by sticking with what we know the Bible says!

The transcription is a bit condensed and not always word for word and with lots of editing. You can also listen to the entire conversation from the YouTube below the text. It was apparently filmed when Donald Trump was still president.

Transcription

Rick Wiles

Rick Wiles: Well, my guests today are known to many of you. They host a very popular program on YouTube called Israeli News Live. The co-hosts are a husband and wife team of Jewish believers in our Lord Jesus Christ. They are Jewish Christians, but they firmly reject Zionism. I’m talking about Steven and Jana Ben Nun.

And if you have never seen them, you are going to become one of their fans and you’ll be checking out their YouTube channel Israeli News Live.

Steven: We started off before it was Israeli News Live. We started off as a teaching ministry, but very pro-Zionist. I come from a Jewish background. Both my parents were Jews. They were non-practicing Jews. I had given my life to Christ when I was eight years old in an event when my mother visited a church with a friend. She never went back again.

Rick: And you were eight years old and you got saved on one visit to a church?

Steven: At one visit, exactly.

Rick: Wow. Somebody was preaching the Gospel that day.

Steven: They were. And you know, Rick, the funny thing is, when I was 40 years old, I went and moved to Israel at that time. And when I did, before I left, I went back to that little church. It was London Baptist Church in Casselbury, Alabama. We lived in Casselbury at the time. And my mother’s best friend, she went there just to visit with her there. But I left a note and they’d said the minister that had administered there, I think he’d passed away by them, but I just left a note at the church there saying, “I want to thank you for a minister that would still preach the Gospel and salvation of Jesus Christ. Because now 32 years later, I’m now taking the Gospel of Jesus Christ to my own people in Israel.”

And that’s kind of where things began for me. But still, though, even though I believe the Lord Jesus Christ is Savior, I was still very much a pro-Zionist type believer looking at the Scriptures more from the Scofield type glasses. And so even as we began from ministry into the news aspect of things to cover more things, we started Israeli News Live at that point there. And Israeli News Live was mainly looking at the geopolitical spectrum from more of a biblical aspect. And we really grew very rapidly in popularity with this program.

I survived a suicide bombing in Israel in 2004 by the grace of God. But as we built the ministry there, then things began to change. And my wife first began to notice a lot of things. And she had me read one book called The Holocaust Victims Accuse, which really was Jewish rabbis talking about what they went through during the Holocaust, and how it was the Zionist leaders that were turning their backs on them and allowing other Jews to go to the Holocaust camps and things like that. That really began to wake me up.

Rick: Did you read The Transfer Agreement by Edwin Black?

Steven: Yes. I also read that as well.

Rick: Was that an eye opener?

Jana: Yes, it indeed was because it proved to us that Hitler was actually Zionist, which was a total surprise that he co-operated with Zionist leaders.

Rick: Yes. Adolf Hitler worked with the Zionists. Would you say he was a Zionist?

Jana: Well, he worked with them.

Rick: He co-operated with them. He helped them.

Jana: Right. And they have a coin of commemoration.

Rick: Right. And so the early Zionists found a way to work with Adolf Hitler in the Third Reich. The Third Reich actually contributed millions of dollars to the Zionist movement to subsidize the Zionist infiltration of Palestine.

Jana: That’s right. We can say that Hitler helped to build the state of Israel.

Rick: Yes, he did. Yes, he did.

Steven: We first started bringing that information out, Rick, on our broadcast because the more I would get shocked, the more I would bring out. And of course, the Syrian conflict also was a contributing factor because as we investigated things from a news fact, we began to recognize all the inconsistencies with mainstream media. So that was also turning us. But when I first published about what was happening during the Holocaust with the Jewish people actually allowing the deaths of other Jewish people just so that they could have numbers in this, I had a good friend of mine who, his whole family, his background is Mossad in Israel. And he wrote me and he said, “Steven, you’ve got to let this go. That’s water under the bridge. I know it’s true. The documents are there. We know it’s true. It’s written by rabbis. We know all this is factual information.” But he said, “My own family actually helped finance the Stern Gang.

Rick: The Stern Gang (connected to Irgun) was a Jewish Zionist terrorist organization with Menachem Begin, which was responsible for blowing up the King David Hotel and murdering a lot of innocent Arabs. And he ended up becoming the prime minister.

Steven: Yes, he did. And oddly enough, you know, there were different things and my own past that would come to my mind that I had heard like when I lived in Israel in 2004, my roommate there was an Israeli soldier. He would come up. He was from Beersheva. He’d been injured in an accident. But he would tell me how they would target practice on Palestinians. And I specifically asked him, I said, “Iran, did you actually kill any?” He said, “I’ve killed three.” I don’t know if he was really ashamed of it or what it was, but he was confessing these things to me. As a believer in Jesus Christ, this bothered me, but I still suppressed those types of things.

Rick: Ben Gurion was quoted as saying, we saw the Palestinians as donkeys.

Steven: Oh, it’s worse than that, Rick. I mean, I also, because of being of a Jewish background, went deeper just searching for roots, even as a believer, I went in, I got more involved with the Chabad organization. I would visit rabbis and then build friendships with them. I actually became a member of the Chabad organization for more than 20 years.

I had business relationships with them because of the moving business we owned. We had a lot of relationships with the rabbis throughout South Florida, and Northwest Florida as well. And the deeper you get into the circles like this, the more you begin to learn, the way Jewish people actually think. Of course, living in Israel, you learn that as well. And as far as Goyim, a Gentile, they’re very much looked down upon, when you mention them, like a donkey. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve sat there with doctors and lawyers just being friends. And then they forget that I’m an actual believer. In some cases, they didn’t even know I was a believer. Maybe I didn’t say anything to them at the time. And they would say, “Steven, that’s just Gentiles. What are you worried about the Gentiles for? They’re going to be our slaves one day.” And things like this just always stuck in the back of my mind.

Rick: Is Zionism racist?

Steven: Yes, Zionism is definitely racist. But it doesn’t make all the Jewish people that way.

Rick: Zionism is based on racial superiority.

Steven: Absolutely. Absolutely.

Rick: So now, do they consider you, your critics, your enemies among the Zionists, are you an anti-Semitic Jew? Or are you a self-hating Jew? How do they label you?

Steven: I don’t get called anti-Semitic as far as being Jewish, but some people say you’re a self-hating Jew. It really depends on the one that is coming against me. I know that one of my sources for the Middle East there, which is, of course, Israeli. He’s actually said to me recently, he said, “You know, Steven, at one time we had hope for you to be able to come to Israel. I appreciate the fact you stand for Jesus. I have respect for that. But you’ve really kind of peeved off everybody in the Israeli government. So that’s probably out the door completely now.” And that’s because of the bold stance we take.

Rick: So if a person is a Gentile, non-Jew, and they criticize Zionism, not Jewish people, if they criticize Zionism, then they get labeled as anti-Semitic. But if a Jew criticizes Zionism, he or she is labeled as a self-hating Jew. That’s the way this game works?

Steven: Exactly how it works. And anti-Semitism is a propaganda. That’s all it really is.

Rick: Well, there’s no Semitic race. There are only Semitic languages. There are about 300 Semitic languages. Hebrew is one of them. But there’s no Semitic race. In fact, there’s only one race. And if you want to be theologically correct, there are two races. Saved and unsaved. The human race is either saved by Jesus Christ or they’re unsaved. And those are the two groups. The rest of the skin color, all that kind of stuff, doesn’t matter.

Jana: I’m originally from East Europe for my Czechoslovakia. And I came to Christ in 2010. My background is that I’m from a kind of mixed household. My mother was not Jewish. She was a Gentile. So in Israel, they consider me a Gentile. They don’t consider people whose father is a Jew. They don’t consider them Jewish. So I am labeled often as anti-Semitic when I speak out.

Rick: He’s a self-heating Jew and you’re anti-Semitic.

Jana: That’s right. And all because we just bring to light the teachings of Judaism, which, while in Israel of course, when you’re there you start noticing things. But because of our Zionist approach to prophecy and to the Bible in general, and we were in a circle of Zionist Christians, I started to research a lot, Jewish roots and Jewishness. And I wanted to know what it is that Judaism is about. What does Judaism believe? So I started to study their writings. Their writings include Talmud, Zohar, Kabbalah, Shulchan Aruch which is their Jewish law. Or it’s called Halakha. And I started to expand on, and listen to a lot of teachings by rabbis. I would open up a lot of videos that Rabbi would specifically teach on Halakha. And on Talmud and explain certain things. And I started to see that there is a huge discrepancy between Christianity and Judaism. That Christianity has absolutely nothing to do with Judaism. Judeo-Christianity, as it is often referred to, is an oxymoron statement. They’re diametrically opposed to each other. And I started to see that basically they actually are the enemies of Christianity.

Rick: Judaism is not biblical even by Old Testament standards. God did not create Judaism.

Jana: Exactly. Judaism, as we know it today, is basically Phariseeism. Judaism is not true faith. It’s nothing that God has given.

Rick: It’s what Jesus condemned!

Jana: Exactly. So I started to notice that we have the same battles today as first-century Christians, as apostles. And that our enemies are the same enemies as the enemies of Jesus. And it was the Pharisees with their oral law. You see a lot of Christians today, especially in Zionist circles. They think that Judaism is about the Old Testament. Judaism is just the Old Testament. All they believe, the Jews, they just believe the Moses law and they practice the law of Moses. They have 613 commandments. Most of these Christians are not familiar with the Talmud, Zohar and Kabbalah and what they are all about. So I started to study what they are about and what the Talmud teaches. And I noticed that there is actually a plan. There is a plot. And there’s a plot against Christianity. And I could not logically understand why would Christian leaders form friendships with Jewish rabbis.

Rick: Take the next several minutes and summarize what is this plan that you’ve discerned.

Jana: Well, first, let me bring you one of the books here, The Secret Doctrine in Israel by Waite. And what it explains is the basically secret doctrine of the Zohar, what is behind Zohar. And you have to understand that the soul of the Talmud is Zohar. And the soul of Zohar is Kabbalah, the occultism or sorcery as I refer to it. Now, this particular book doesn’t speak against it. It only explains what it is, what the secret doctrine is. Here in the preface, it actually speaks of the secret tradition in Israel together with some account of the manner in which it influenced Christian scholarship in Europe during the 16th, 17th and 18th centuries. It seems like this is a plot that is not new. It has been pre-planned long, long ago.

Rick: They’ve been infiltrating Christian churches and universities and organizations for centuries to change the Gospel.

Jana: To change the Gospel and completely put a virus in Christianity, I call that a virus, the leaven of the Pharisees. And today’s Christianity, especially in America, has a virus. And we have to identify what the virus is. But it’s basically the same problem as Apostle Paul had. It’s judaizing, judaizing of Christianity. But they also brought in occultic practices.

But anyway, as I was studying The Secret Doctrine in Israel, I came to really shocking information. It’s not pretty. I don’t really recommend that people who are not strong in faith. It’s a book for the purpose of researching what the doctrine of actual Kabbalah, Zohar and Talmud is, and what Judaism is about because once you understand what Judaism is about, you start understanding that these bridges that Christian ministers are making with the Pharisees or rabbis today, those are very dangerous bridges.

And on one side, it’s always Christians that submit to the Jews. It’s always Christians that have to agree not to preach Jesus to Jews. You see, the Jews, they don’t compromise. They will never compromise what they believe. But the Christians are ready to compromise. And why? Because they have wolves for teachers who have actually made bridges with the Pharisees, the enemy of Christ.

But in this particular book, I just want to read you a little bit about what got me understanding what the plot is against Christianity. It says here, according to the Midrash Talpigoth, the Messiah will bring eternal peace, which of course was understood by the Israelites as peace for Israel. Plus, that which may follow extermination for all who did not enter by conversion into the house of Jacob. So basically what they teach is that if Gentiles or Christians do not attach themselves to the Jews, they will be exterminated.

And of course, we are well known for our Noahide laws. So then you go to Talmud and you start reading what is the plan for Gentiles. You see, Judaism is a two-tier system. Judaism puts the wall of partition back. It’s the Jews and non-Jews. According to Judaism, non-Jews are a different species. They are humans, but they are not at the level of the Jews. Jews are supposedly divine. They are the light of the world. They are the chosen. They have the life of Hashem inside of them. That’s the way they explain the life of God inside. And the Gentiles, they can never achieve it. They are different species. They are on an animalistic level. And the only way for Gentiles to make it, to the world to come, is to attach themselves to the Jews. And how do they do that? Well, through the Noahide laws, seven Noahide laws.

Rick: What percentage of Jews in the world believe that trash?

Steven: I did a little bit of research on it because I know that when we got attacked for bringing out the Noahide laws, it was suggested that only a small percentage, about 2% of radical Jews in Israel actually believed this. But that’s the furthest thing from the truth. But even if it were a small percentage, you have to keep in mind the percentage that controls the world governments. But just for an example, 5% of Jews all over the world globally are Hasidic, actually Hasidic, which are all Talmudists.

But the number continues to go up because if you go outside the Hasidic, then we have what we call Orthodox, or Ultra-Orthodox. That makes up about 30% of all the Jews worldwide. So about 30% of the Jews worldwide are hardcore, and maybe 15% worldwide, we would say are hardcore Talmudist, Zoharis, Kabbalist, whereas the other 15% out of that total of 30% worldwide also adhere to it, but they’re not hardcore.

But nonetheless, at least 30% of all Jews hold the Talmud as a sacred writing as the oral law of God, and it’s held in higher regard than the Bible itself. I know that some will try to play that down and say that’s not true, but that is totally false. It is known by any Orthodox Jew that the Talmud has more prominence than that of Moses or the prophets themselves.

Rick: What are some of the more shocking statements in the Talmud?

Steven: The shocking statements? There are many. Let me kind of clarify some of these ones because they do get kind of misquoted a little bit, but it still holds true. For example, some people try to say that the Talmud condones sexual relations or pedophilia between a man and a boy as long as he is under nine years of age. Then it’s not considered homosexuality. It doesn’t really condone it, but what it does is it minimizes the offense. So they write in the Talmud that if the boy is under nine years of age, then it’s not considered a homosexual act. That’s actually written in the Talmud. But the reason why they do this is because they know that the law of Moses would command that if you have a homosexuality, then that person is to be stoned. So they don’t want the rabbis to be guilty if they end up getting caught. So they minimize it.

The same thing with a little girl if is she is under the age of three years old, they minimize it. And it depends on the rabbi, it depends on whether it’s nine years old or three years old in the Talmud, would consider no different than if the girl would be defiled as if you poked her in her eye. In other words, it’ll just heal back. It’s no big deal.

Of course, Jesus Himself, He’s written about, they don’t use His name. They normally use Balaam when it’s written in the Talmud, but I can literally show you right in the Talmud, right in the notes where it says on there that Balaam is a substitute in coded language in the Talmud for Jesus. And they say that He is in hell and boiling in feces. Those are some of the more bold things that a lot of people are more aware of. But there are tons of things that people just would never quite like.

Rick: Why are there so many American evangelical Zionists, pastors and Bible teachers, prophecy teachers, why are there so many of them studying the Talmud?

Steven: This is the design. What I see, sometimes I wonder, Rick, if it’s just they’re going in, maybe with good intentions, maybe they’re excited, they’re wanting to try to get closer to the Jewish people. But then there are others that are clearly, they are involved in this for an agenda to bring about an ecumenical movement that is going to put Christianity, the Christian people underneath Talmudic rabbis. This is my biggest fear. And this is, in fact, even today, this is what is circling in the pulpits today, many times unbeknownst to the followers here, they’re being taught Talmudic and Zohar prophecies and the people have no idea that this is what they’re being taught.

Rick: I’m hearing the word gematria appearing on so-called Christian TV, it’s just religious TV. Most Christian TV is now Jewish TV. You don’t hear Christianity anymore. But I’m hearing the word gematria. I’m hearing an exaltation of numbers, not the Book of Numbers, but that there’s special revelation in knowing the number of value of words in the Bible and the Bible codes and so forth.

I don’t watch a lot of religious TV. I haven’t watched it in years because you can catch an STD watching religious television, a Spiritually Transmitted Doctrine. And so I don’t want one to get in my brain because evangelical Zionism is spiritual syphilis and it will cause brain damage, it will cause heart damage. So I’m very careful about watching religious television. But I’m seeing and I’m hearing these so-called Christians, I don’t think they’re Christians. I think if they ever were, they’ve left the faith, they’ve been Judaized, they’ve departed from the Christian faith.

There’s a pastor down in North Texas, just south of Dallas Fort Worth, that is running a gematria church. And he’s on these television networks, he’s got a weekly show. He’s promoting gematria. He’s open about it. Is gematria from God?

Jana: No, it’s not Holy Spirit.

Steven: Gematria to begin with, of course, it’s numerology, like tarot cards. It’s really a shame that this has actually entered into the Church to begin with. But gematria, the numeric value is borrowed from the Greeks. The Greeks borrowed it from the Egyptians. Hebrews never had this originally. And this is what a lot of people are totally forgetting. Of course, pastors are becoming more like, as the scripture describes them, hirelings. They don’t care about the flock whatsoever. And this numerology, whether it be through Bible codes, whether it be through the numeric value, ends up making havoc of the Word of God. And this is the reason why we have in Judaism, for example, they are looking for the Messiah to come. But they don’t tell you, well, they’re becoming more open. They call it the Nachash Moshiach, which is the serpent Messiah, is what they’re looking for. And they say that the word serpent nachash and moshiach has the same gematric value. That should be the first sign that this is demonic in the first place. Just like when they give you Trump’s last name also having that same equivalent. Well, if you want to go by Gamatria, you could also say that his last name means toilet as well. This is how ridiculous it is. There are no longer people looking for the way God said He reveals Himself.

Rick: When I came out of TBN (Trinity Broadcasting Network) in 1998, God called me out to start this work. I was introduced to the Bible codes. It was the late Yachav Ramsal, who was a Messianic believer, Messianic Christian. Really nice man. I had many conversations with Yachav Ramsal. He had a sweet spirit, a very nice man. But he was a big promoter of the Bible codes. And so I had a CD that came from Israel, and he told me, rabbis have developed this. And you can search the Bible codes as this is presented by the rabbis. And this was all new to me. And I had never heard of such things. When I would be working with it on my computer, my wife Susan would say, “Oh, I see you got your Ouija board up there and operating it.” And I’d go, “It’s not a Ouija board. I got this from Israel. Rabbis endorsed this.” And Susan would say, “That’s a Jewish Ouija board.” She was right. I was wrong.

But there was a day that the Holy Spirit convicted me and said, “Put that away. Don’t touch it again.” And what the Lord told me was, that’s divination. And I realized that the people who were using this CD from Israel, and I’m talking about the Evangelical Zionists in America that were buying these CDs in Israel from the rabbis, they were trying to predict the future. And I was part of a little network of Evangelical Zionists that were e-mailing back and forth, they had message boards about prophetic things that were going to happen in the future. They found it in the Bible codes. It was just divination. They’re trying to divine the future. And God forbids it.

But how was I introduced to it? By a Jewish man who said he was a believer. And that’s what I’m trying to say to you, who, those of you watching me, and you’re playing around with Jewish roots and Hebrew roots and all the stuff, you’re being indoctrinated. They’re leading you away from the historic Christian faith. They’re leading you away from Jesus Christ to another Messiah. And it’s incremental, it’s slow, it’s step by step. But you need to know that it is a dangerous walk that you’re on. Run from Evangelical Zionism. Run from the Hebrew roots movement. Run, run from the Zohar. Run from all this stuff as fast as you can. It’s dangerous.

Steven: It’s very dangerous, Rick. And the thing is, it appears innocent in the beginning. Myself, I had the same thing when it was popular. I had the little program. But the one thing that really caught my attention on it early on was the fact, the next thing I knew I was spending so many hours a day just consuming my time. My thought was, if I spend this much time in prayer and studying the Word of God, how much more? Because God never promised to reveal Himself through gematria. But as He said to Peter, flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father, which is in heaven has revealed this to you, and upon this rock I’ll build my church.

So revelation of Him, of His Word, and of course we know He deals with dreams and visions, I don’t like to go overboard in that area either, but the thing is, those were the biblical principles that were laid down for us. It wasn’t gematria. It wasn’t Kabbalah. It wasn’t all these things as right now we have in Israel. We have teachers coming out who are Jewish teaching Christians, and the Christians are gobbling this up like eating out of a garbage can. Gobbling this up, wanting to know more because they’re telling them, they’re teaching them the deeper meanings because of the Kabbalah, which is basically gematria, putting all this numeric value to what this revelation means based on the numerology, and it’s horrible.

Rick: During our earlier conversation in my office, when we were talking about I think it was The Secret Doctrine in Israel, is that the book that you said that there was a 200-year-old prophecy? Or is it another book?

Jana: It is a different book. There is a Jewish author Rabbi Joel Bakst, who is the author of a two-volume book, it’s called “The Josephic Messiah Sacred Serpent”, and I think it has three names. (Full name of the book: The Secret Doctrine of the Gaon of Vilna Volume II: The Josephic Messiah, Leviathan, Metatron and the Sacred Serpent.) They are sourcing it from a 200-year-old book called “Kol HaTor The Voice of the Turtledove”. In that particular book, Rabbi Goud Vilna (I’m not sure of the spelling) had discovered the code or he was able to get a revelation, as they say, of the mystery of Kabbalah. They have predicted in that book, they said that at the end times, the messianic times, a figure like Cyrus shall appear again. So all of these Cyrus’ prophecies…

Rick: That was like over 200 years ago? That a Cyrus figure would appear? What would this Cyrus do?

Jana: Well, in a Jewish mind, they have not only one Messiah, like Christians, we have Jesus Christ as the one and the only Messiah. They have two Messiahs, one is a Messiah Ben-Joseph, and one is Messiah Ben-David. The Messiah Ben-Joseph can be anybody, whether Jew or a Gentile, it can be an Edomite according to them, a Gentile, but that Gentile has to do good for Israel and move Israel towards its final redemption.

According to Jewish doctrine, Messiah Ben-Joseph can be either a Jew or a Gentile who helps Israel in their redemption process, who is doing anything. All the good things for Israel, so Israel can come to a place where they rule the world.

Steven: Well, you have two different points on that. You have the Mashiach ben Yosef and Mashiach ben David. And one brings about Israel to redemption, but the other brings it about through war. Some believe that Trump could be possibly the David Messiah and that Netanyahu could be the Joseph, which brings about the war. Or vice versa, forgetting which ones are which, and there are all kinds of beliefs out there like this.

Rick: Well, it may make it difficult for Trump to be the war, Messiah, because the day the U.S. Senate voted to limit his powers to start a war with Iran. I’m surprised that that passed the Senate today. So you know what they’re going to have to do now? They need a Gulf of Tonkin incident. They need a U.S.S. Liberty incident. They got to do something, get around that Senate vote.

Jana: Well, they consider Trump a Ben-Joseph Messiah for one reason. He has moved the American embassy to Jerusalem. There is a plan that all nations will move their embassies to Jerusalem. And then also he gave them Golan, and he’s supporting their occupation of the land.

Rick: Are there Kabbalah wizards pumping this stuff into Donald Trump’s head? Are they just making it up and telling him, “Hey, we have prophecies about Cyrus and the Messiah! It’s you! We’ve come to this conclusion. It’s you!” Are they making this stuff up?

Jana: You know, I don’t see the heart. I don’t know if he’s willingly part of that, or if they are really putting this into his head. So I don’t know what the truth is.

Rick: We know that they’re saying it to him. We get recordings of them saying, you’re the Messiah. You’re in gematria.

Jana: Now in Judaism, Ben-Joseph can be several people. Every generation had Messiah Ben-Joseph according to Jews. So when they speak of Messiah, you have to be really careful to understand what they mean. Because, of course, then they have the Messiah, the final Messiah, the Ben-Dovid Messiah. And that one will be…

Rick: So there’s three?

Jana: That one will be a sacred serpent.

Rick: A snake?

Jana: A snake.

Rick: They’re expecting a snake Messiah?

Steven: Well, Rabbi Laitman is a prominent Jewish philosopher. He’s one of course is taught by the Rabbi Goan that Jana was talking about already. But Rabbi Laitman really promotes the idea very openly that the serpent in the Garden of Eden was actually the helper of mankind! And of course, he writes about the sacred serpent, or the holy serpent he’s even called, which they believe will be the last Messiah that brings about redemption. And so, I mean, always think about how Jesus says in Matthew, that you’re of your father, the devil, or he says you’re a generation of vipers. You know, he’s already telling you. But yet, when we see this, then we see that they’re looking for a serpent Messiah. I mean, it’s just strange the way they think.

Jana: According to the book by Joel Bakst, “The Josephic Messiah, Leviathan, Metatron and the Sacred Serpent,” in the second volume, he’s describing the serpent that was in the Garden of Eden. And he’s describing him as Androgynous AI. And this is basically who their final Messiah is. They’re bringing down their sacred serpent. He’s male-female in one body, and AI. Because Kabbalah is closely connected with technology. And in their books and writings, they’re actually admitting they’re going to bring their final Messiah through technology. Technology is connected to Kabbalah so closely that basically Kabbalah is technology. It’s occultic. And they’re specifically talking about the sacred serpent that was in the Garden of Eden. They’re describing him in this particular book. And he is an Androgynous Ai. And this is their Messiah.

Rick: His name is Lucifer.

Steven: Yes. And you know, Rick, this is one of the things we were talking about during lunchtime today is that one of the sources I have in Israel that is heavily involved in Israeli intelligence shared deeply with me how that one particular company, which he could not name to me so that you won’t ever find it on any stock exchange, etc., that they’re working with as he called it, “entities with a thousand IQ.”

Rick: They’re working with entities? Corporate or alien?

Steven: He’s referring to alien. In fact, when he spoke to the man that owns the company because they socialize together, he expressed to him that when he asked, “Are they part of a government?” He said, “They’re more powerful than any government on the planet.” But they were working, looking for certain individuals with a certain DNA background that they could cross the AI technology with this DNA, the DNA of these individuals.

Rick: Are the Nephilim here?

Steven: He actually told me that they used people who had DNA that would match the Nephilim DNA to be able to do that.

Rick: I believe they are. They’re the offspring of fallen angels and humans.

Steven: We know that Ezra clearly tells us that the Levitical priesthood had mingled their seed according to the Book of Ezra chapter 9. It’s written plainly in the Book of Numbers that Anak, his father, was not Nephlilim, but his father was in the Falling. They don’t put the vowel points in the right place. There’s no extra yod actually used in the spelling. In the same paragraph when it speaks of Anak’s sons, they are the sons of his sons, but they are called Nephilim. So, therefore, somehow or another, they were involved in some very witchcraft type of activities as Joshua had warned, and Moses had warned the children of Israel not to get involved in those types of activities. So it makes you wonder.

Rick: It’s my belief that there was an advanced civilization on the planet before Noah’s Great Flood. And we had a one-world government. There were no nations. Nations did not exist until after the Flood. So there were no nations on the planet before the Flood. And I believe Satan ruled the world after the fall of Adam and Eve. Satan was the God of this world. He ruled this world. I believe that there was an advanced human civilization here. And God reached a point where he said, I regret ever making these people. I’m just going to wipe them off the face of the earth. Everything’s going to die. He saved Noah and his family. And then one of Noah’s descendants, Nimrod, who was a great hunter, and some people believe he was a hunter of men, Nimrod embarked on building Babylon, building a tower to reach heaven. His motive, his plan was to overthrow God. And I believe what he was doing was saying, I think he heard Noah, his great grandfather. I believe he heard with his own ears Noah telling the stories of what existed on the other side of the Flood. And I believe Nimrod said, I want that back. I want that. I want that world. I want that civilization. And this God, this God is what took it away from us and destroyed the world as we’ve known it. And I’m going to build a tower. I’m going to go into heaven. I’m going to overthrow this God. And then man will build this civilization again and we will serve Lucifer again. I believe that’s what that was all about. That’s why God broke up the languages, gave people various languages, scattered them around the earth, and created the nations to break up the ability of mankind to unite and accomplish anything. Because God said, because their language is one they can do anything.

Well, through computer language, through binary language, mankind is coming back to one language. And gaining that ability to do almost anything. And I believe what is taking place right now is that the new Nimrods are saying, “We are going to rebuild the pre-Flood civilization. And we’re going to prove to this God, we don’t need him, we don’t fear him, we don’t have to obey him. We will in the end, we will win. We will conquer him.” And that’s the clash that is coming right now. You’re either on that side or you’re on the side of the kingdom of heaven. There’s no middle ground. And you have to choose which side that you’re on. Do you see anything like that in the writings of Zohar, Talmud, or anything like that?

Jana: Well, in the Zohar, Talmud, and Kabbalah, the entire thing is the separation of people to Israelitic and non-Israelitic according to the book called Jewish Utopia. Now, they are building their own kingdom. It’s the Jewish earthly kingdom with headquarters in Jerusalem where their AI Messiah will be, and they’re going to rule the world through law. It will be international, one law. One religion, basically, Luciferian religion. So, yes, in the Talmud, this is the Jewish earthly kingdom. This is why Zionist Christianity has embraced chiliasm (The doctrine stating that Jesus will reign on earth for 1,000 years) which is a focus on an earthly millennial kingdom. And this is how Jews and Christians are getting together. And Christians are so deceived thinking that they are working for a good thing, for the Jews. Like they’re helping the Jews. The Jews are supposed to get this kingdom. Yet this is a Zoharic doctrine and it does not have a good intention.

As I said, they want to rule the world. They want to get the Gentile riches and they want to rule the Gentiles. They don’t consider Gentiles fully human beings. And in fact, as an end game, they have this strange doctrine, Adam Kadmon doctrine which Adam Kadmon originally was, according to Zohar and Talmud, he was androgynous. He was male and female in one body. And this is why you see this transgender movement today. And there are laws, very serious laws, getting passed in Alberta, Canada.

Rick: Is Zionism behind the transgender movement?

Jana: Personally, I don’t think Zionist Christians are aware of this. Yes, it gets its origin in Zionism and it gets its origin in the Talmud, Zohar, and Kabbalah. It’s a Kabbalistic doctrine of Adam Kadmon. They have this doctrine called Tikkun Olam, repairing the world. So how do they want to repair the world? They want to bring it to the original. Who was the original Adam? He was androgynous. So now they’re putting specific things in food and drink. And basically, their end game is to make humans on earth that will survive. Whatever it is they’re bringing, androgynous, the transgender agenda.

Rick: What they’re really trying to do is undo God’s creation. They are at odds with the Creator. Jesus told the Pharisees, your father is the Devil. Was that literal? Was he saying, “Hey, you guys are really bad. Your old man is the Devil.” Or was he saying, “Your father really is Satan. You’re demonic.”

Steven: When I look at that, I look at that in a two-fold purpose there. Because at one point He actually says, “I know that you’re Abraham’s seed. But you don’t believe what I’m telling you.” In my opinion, it’s like a hybridization is what it is. Half, maybe 50% of them, Satan is their father, the other half is not. But when I say that, I can look at this from a scriptural aspect. Just like when they mingled the seed. And by the way, the seed was not mingled with the Babylonians. It was mingled with the Hittites, Perizzites, Jebusites. Which we know had a Nephilim bloodline according to the Scripture. But when they had mingled the seed there, this is where, in my opinion, this is why Jesus put that label on him. In fact, he goes on to say that he puts the blood shed all the way back to Abel on the Pharisees. But yet we know the Pharisees did not exist back during the times of Adam and Eve. So there must be some type of connection. Whether it’s spiritual, whether it’s a physical bloodline, it’s very difficult to say absolutely. But it doesn’t mean that every Pharisee is bad because we saw Paul come out. He was a Pharisee. We see Nicodemus coming to Jesus by night.

But there’s one Scripture that really sticks out in my mind that I used to totally have messed up. And that was Malachi chapter 4. When it says in there, and we know it’s speaking about the final judgment, when he says your day will come that will burn as an oven and shall leave them neither root nor branch. And I used to think, wow, what a fire! It’s going to burn up their legs and burn off their arms and then they’re going to drop dead. But it’s not speaking of that. It’s just like Christ says, I am divine. You are the branches. He is the root. He is the root of Jesse. Therefore he is our root. We are the branches and Gentiles are grafted into him. In the case of what Malachi is speaking about, I believe he’s talking about the Nephilim bloodline right there. It leaves them neither root, which would be Satan. And those that were grafted into Satan through these perversions that the Jews got into in their idolatry back in the days, even with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah. Those are the branches from that tree. And this is where we see that come in.

But I know there is a big debate over whether or not is it a literal seed line, is it a spiritual seed line, but I know in the end we’ll know. But Jesus did say, by their fruit you shall know them. And of course, a tree, a branch, even if it’s grafted in, can only bear the fruit of whatever the root is.

Rick: Did Jesus Christ abolish Judaism? Did God destroy it in 70 AD?

Steven: There’s no doubt about it. I mean even when we look in the Scriptures what Paul writes, he came as the Melchizedek priesthood. And oddly enough, this is what’s really strange. If you look at the Qumran writings (Dead Sea Scrolls), they literally believed in a Melchizedek priesthood that would come. They believed that the Messiah would come. I don’t agree with the doctrine of the Qumranite community. But I thought it was interesting that they believed that when the Messiah comes, he would be Melchizedek coming on the earth, and that that would be the Sukkah, which is the Hebrew term for the tent or the tabernacle for Yom Sikot or the Feast of Tabernacles. And that you would have to enter into Him, into that Sukkah, or as we would notice Christians today, you have to enter into Christ. And I thought how close those people were to recognizing who the Messiah would be if they really believed that Jesus was the Messiah.

So in answering that question, yes, the Old Testament, the Old Law, as I’ve always put it, that law was, as we read the Old Testament, the Levitical Law, this was what was enmity between God and man. This was the tree of knowledge of good and evil, and that had to be done away with in order to partake from the tree of life, which is Christ. He’s life, not law.

Rick: Almighty God destroyed the Temple in 70 AD. He destroyed the rituals, the sacrifices, and everything associated with Judaism. He destroyed it. It wasn’t just a minor judgment on it. It was the divine destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple, exactly what Jesus said, every stone of this Temple is coming down. God judged it. Jesus Christ is the Temple. He is our Temple. The entire system was obliterated. The judgment of God came upon the Jewish people for murdering, crucifying the Son of God. They were dispersed around the world. They said, let his blood be upon us. And the only way to get out from under that curse is to repent and believe on the name of Jesus Christ. That’s it. That’s the only way to get out of that curse.

The Jewish people were under the curse of Deuteronomy 28. All the curses are right there. If you violate this covenant, this is what happens. They violated it over and over and over and over. All those curses are on them. Now for the whole human race, we’re all under the curse of sin and death that came upon Adam and Eve. We’re all under it. The only way out of these curses is repentance and belief on the name of Jesus Christ as Messiah.

We are witnessing this in our lifetime. And this is, it’s taken 2,000 years, 1900 and some years for this to take place. In 1948, a group of Zionists said, we will defy Almighty God.
We will rebuild what he destroyed.
We will rebuild the Temple that he destroyed.
We will rebuild Babylon. We will make Jerusalem the new Babylon.
We will build a tower, technology. We will defy that God.
And what is taking place right now with the so-called State of Israel? It is not of God. It is from the pit of hell. It is in direct rebellion against God. If the Jews want to be in alignment with God, they will believe on the name of Jesus Christ. They will be baptized into His Church. Apart from that, they’re in rebellion. But the people that are building this Zionist empire are in direct defiance of Almighty God. Most Jews in the world are just outside of God’s kingdom now. But the ones that are building the Zionist empire, they are in active, conscious rebellion against God. They seek to rebuild that which God himself destroyed. And they’re doing it with Lucifer.

And the evangelical Zionists that are being sucked into this thing, they’re working with Lucifer. And they don’t even know it. I think a lot of them do know it. I think at the top a lot of these evangelicals Zionists are just Freemasons. They’re secret closet Freemasons because you’ve got this Masonic Kabbalah alliance which is all rooted in Babylonian secret knowledge.

Jana: Yes, you said it beautifully, Rick. You said it perfectly. And I would like to tell people several things here. We are not anti-Semites. I am here with you. You love the Jewish people. My husband is Jewish, what we call Jewish. And you love him because he’s your brother. You love the Jews enough that you give them the Gospel. Because who loves the Jew, that person shall speak the Gospel to the Jewish people so they can come out and have everlasting life and they can come to the true Messiah away from the doctrines of their Pharisees. They’re under deception and they’re in the grasp of their Pharisaic religion. And we need to help them to come out. So the true people who truly love the Jewish people will understand that we have to bring the true real pure Gospel to the Jews. And Zionist Christians are not doing it.

That was one problem we had when we were in Zionist Christianity. My problem was that there was a huge move not to preach Jesus to Jews. In fact, they agree not to do it and they honor the bridges that they form. They agree that the Christians should submit themselves to Jews and they agree not to give the Gospel to the Jews. It’s prohibited to speak the name of Jesus in front of Jews.

Rick: You told me something today I’d never heard of. You said that there is a network in America of what is called kosher pastors. There’s an actual website of a man who calls himself a kosher pastor. And I don’t know whether he’s part of this network that you’re talking about. But that’s what he calls himself. He’s the kosher pastor. There’s the satanic star of David and the Kosher, the Christian cross and pastor. You can’t combine the two. They’re opposites. The star of David is demonic. It’s Kabbalah. It was never associated with King David. But take a few minutes and talk about this network of kosher churches. Kosher, what does this mean?

Jana: Okay, I just spent Saturday at our conference here. I met our sister in Christ, one sister in Christ who was involved with a group that is taught by Isaac Shapiro who is heavily involved with Mark Biltz, Congregation of El Shaddai Ministries. And they are bringing some kind of a new Gospel all over the churches, all over Latin America. They’re flying all over the world, even France, even Europe and everywhere. And they have this code name for the pastors, kosher pastor. And who is the kosher pastor? Now I don’t know if the website that you just showed, if that’s theirs, that’s just something we just looked up and found. So I have to research. But who is the kosher pastor? Well, they have these thirteen commandments or thirteen declarations that they are circulating in churches, and pastors are signing on to these declarations. And when they sign, they become a kosher pastor.

Now, I didn’t bring it with me or we should have kind of looked for it before we came here. Among the thirteen declarations, I can tell you two by memory. One is not to preach Jesus to Jews.

Rick: These pastors are signing this declaration. They will not preach Jesus Christ to Jews?

Jana: Yes. The Jews do not need to become Christians. They already are in the covenant and it is prohibited to preach Jesus to Jews.

Rick: That’s what John Hagee teaches.

Jana: Right. The last one, the number thirteen, is so funny, that it’s number thirteen because thirteen has a great significance in occultic numbers. But it asks for, it says that any gentile, even if needed, will have to put his or her life for any Jew. And you hear, well, any Jew, just because somebody is a Jew, that they are signing that he would give up his life for a Jew. For any Jew. Only for the reason that person is a Jew. By DNA.

Rick: Do you have any idea how many pastors have signed this declaration? Last time I checked it was over 250, but now they are growing.

Steven: They do make it public, Rick. And you know, the reason for all this movement and what’s really causing Christians to fall for this is misinterpretations of biblical prophecy or prophecy that have been fulfilled. And Zachariah 8:23 is one of the most important ones that they are using because they are saying that the Gentiles are going to take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew.

Starting with verse 22

Zechariah 8:22  Yea, many people and strong nations shall come to seek the LORD of hosts in Jerusalem, and to pray before the LORD.
23  Thus saith the LORD of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.

Now, what they do, Rick, is they tell the people that this is showing you, they’re putting this as a future prophecy. And I used to believe it was a future prophecy as well when I was a Zionist and used to try to figure out, okay, how is this going to be fulfilled? And it never made sense to me because I’m thinking, you know, well, what would we want to take the hold of a skirt of a Jew when Jewish people are in Judaism, they’re in Talmudism. Alright, so I thought, okay, well, maybe this is about the two witnesses or something like that. I would just try to come up with a logical explanation for this. It wasn’t until God began to open our eyes to the false teachings of Zionism that we went back and I prayerfully went and started to research the Scriptures. And on this particular one, we have a good friend of ours named Jennifer. She had told my wife, she said, you should ask Steve. Look, he knows Hebrew. It’s a singular word. It’s not a plural word. But yet people like Isaac Shapiro, Mark Biltz, these guys here, they’re teaching this is a plural. So therefore the Gentiles are going to take hold of the Jewish nation, the Jewish rabbis, and they go underneath the Talmudic rabbis until the Messiah comes and resolves everything.

So I went and I began to go and I searched the Scriptures and I was looking back, and then I began to realize where the fulfillment was.

When they say we hear that God is with you, that was fulfilled in the book of Acts. That as it says, talks about what they will say, and of course, they believe that the 10 men of the nations, because that’s what it’s speaking about, the 10 men of the nations, would come to Israel and they want to take a hold of the wing of this Jewish man. When we go over to the book of Acts, my Bible is laid out a little differently here, but when we go over to the book of Acts chapter 2, we find out that in verse 36, I believe it is, that that’s exactly what happened. In fact, if you’re reading this, we find out that these Judeans, it says people translated as Jews, but it’s actually Judeans that are actually coming back to the land of Israel. They come from all the different nations where they were born. So we know therefore that these Judeans are only because their ancestry is from Palestine, but they’re coming back. Then they’re there on the day of Pentecost, and when the 120 that comes out of the upper room are staggering and they see the power of God that is going on, they’re pricked within their hearts. But what’s interesting is verse 36 says, therefore let all the house of Israel know for certain that God has made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified. So the house of Israel was actually returning not in the future, but 2,000 years ago according to the Scripture, and it also fits Romans 9. If it’s Isaiah, what is it? Chapter 10 verse 22, I believe it is, where it talks about how though Israel be as the sand of the sea, yet a remnant shall return. And this remnant here, I believe, are the ten of the nations that were prophesied in Zechariah that were, in this case, saying, we will go with you for we hear God is with you because they’re pricked in their heart. They want to know, what can we do?

Rick: The remnant that the prophets said would be, the prophets, the Jewish prophets in the Old Testament clearly forewarned that Israel would go into apostasy, into sin, rebellion, that God would judge the country of Israel, judge the Jewish people, but there would be a remnant. The remnant were the Jews who believed on the name of Jesus. And the population of Israel dwindled. It dwindled down to just a few thousand Jews at the beginning of the Book of Acts. And then the Gentiles were grafted into Israel, but they weren’t grafted into Judaism. They were grafted into Israel, which was believing on the name of Jesus. The Jews who rejected Jesus were cast out of Israel, and they are still outside of Israel. The only way that God will let them back into true Israel, not the state of Israel, but God’s Israel, the only way that those Jews can get back into Israel and be in right standing with God is to repent of their sins and believe on the name of Jesus Christ and be baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Those are the requirements, and they are the same for every human on the planet.

Rabbi John Hagee teaches that the state of Israel is the gateway to Heaven’s blessings for Gentiles. As a Gentile, you can’t receive God’s blessings unless you go through the state of Israel. Now, you want to talk about replacement theology? They have replaced Jesus with the state of Israel! They replaced the Cross with the star of David. And I could go down the list of all the things that the Zionists have replaced. They created the real replacement theology. They replaced true Christianity with a fake churchyanity. But for him to stand there in a church and tell people, the state of Israel is your gateway to Heaven’s blessings. And what he’s teaching is that I, as a Gentile, am obligated to financially bless Jews if I want to be blessed by God. He’s teaching it!!!

Jana: That’s a Talmudic doctrine.

Rick: Yes, it’s Talmudic. He knows it’s Talmudic. And I suspect that John Hagee privately converted to Talmudic Judaism. We’ll find out when he passes away whether he gets a Talmudic burial in Israel. The man’s gone from Christianity. He’s gone. He long checked out of Christianity. He’s not in the Church anymore.

Steven: I don’t see how ministers can live with themselves, honestly, Rick. I really don’t. Because when you’re confronted with the Gospel of Jesus Christ, you’re confronted with this truth and you begin to wake up and recognize what’s going on. How can you live with yourself? I know ministers personally that suffer mentally from these things right now because I know that this is what they’re battling. They know what the truth of the Gospel is. And as you put it, it’s reverse replacement theology because what we believe in Jesus Christ is not replacing Israel. The entire church was all Jews in the beginning. So how can we be replacing them? Gentiles are only being added to it.

Rick: We want to study the Jewish roots. Jesus is the root, not Judaism! The Jews were the branches. Jesus is the root. And the Gentiles were grafted into the branches. But Jesus is the root.

Steven: You just said an important thing that I try to bring out to people all the time. We know that Jesus is the root of that tree. And when Paul gives the whole analogy in Romans 11 about Israel being in that tree originally, and then they’re cut out because of unbelief, people seem to just totally go right over that right there. That they weren’t grafted in to Christ, they were already in Him originally. But their unbelief is what caused them to be taken out. So this is nothing to do with replacement theology, but it goes right over the people’s heads.

Rick: Jesus Christ fulfilled all of God’s promises to Israel. He fulfilled all of them. There’s nothing left. There’s not one more thing God can do for the Jewish people. What can He do that’s greater than sacrificing His Son on a cross? Name something greater. God has done everything He’s going to do for the Jewish people. God has done everything He’s going to do for the entire human race. The ball is in our court. Obey. Believe on the name of Jesus. Repent of your sins. Be baptized. Whether you’re a Jew or a Gentile, the ground is level at the cross. We’re all sinners. There’s neither Jew nor Greek. We all have to go to the cross.

God is not going to do one more thing. He’s not building a Temple. A Temple would be an abomination. It would be blasphemous for God to build a Temple. Why? Are you saying that the blood of Jesus isn’t good enough anymore? That the blood of bulls and sheep has more power to atone for sins than the Son of God? Think about the blasphemy that these evangelical Zionists are telling people in churches that there’s going to be a third Temple! That’s blasphemy!!! Why would God do something like that? His Son’s blood is just as pure and holy and powerful today as it was 2,000 years ago when it ran down the cross at Calvary. God ripped the veil in the Temple. The earth shook the sky. It went black. The sun was darkened. Why? Because judgment was coming on Israel! And in 70 AD, He destroyed it! And now in our lifetime, the Zionists under the inspiration of Lucifer are seeking to rebuild that which God destroyed. And this thing, Zionism, is in direct opposition to the kingdom of God. And anybody who aligns himself with Zionism, you have made yourself an enemy of the living God. And you better repent and get out of it quickly.

God is doing a great new work in the Church. He’s shaking the Church right now. And He’s revealing the false doctrines. He’s revealing the deception. And He’s calling people to take a stand. He’s drawing a line. And you’ve got to choose which side you’re on. Are you on the side of Satan or are you on the side of Jesus Christ? You can’t mix the two. And it’s going to be costly. If you come out of Zionism, you’re going to pay a price. I’m paying a price. I’m being attacked and being smeared. My name is being vilified. Why? Because I reject Zionism. And I will pay that price. But my God will defend me. He’ll protect me. And I’m not going to fear what any human being threatens to do to me.

The Lord is opening eyes. He’s removing the blinders. And people are coming out of Zionism. They’re being delivered. And that is a good thing to happen. We love you very much.

Video of the interview

The following statements are from a book, The Pope – Chief of White Slavers, High Priest of Intrigue – By Jeremiah J. Crowley, (Ireland, Nov. 20, 1861 — Chicago, Aug. 10, 1927) an American Roman Catholic priest of 21 years. The Wikipedia article about him says he was excommunicated from the church, but Crowley himself denies he was ever excommunicated. He left the Catholic Church of his own volition. Crowley is famous for his first book, “Romanism, A Menace to the Nation.”

1. That no professing Roman Catholic, believing in the doctrines of papal supremacy and infallibility, can be loyal to any form of government but the papal only.

2. That the pope is the arch-enemy of humanity, the foe of free conscience, free speech, free printing-presses, free school, free Church in a free State.

3. That the inquisition is not dead anywhere; sleeping in some places it is, like the Jesuits, dead as an order from 1773 till 1814, ready at papal call to get busy again all over the world.

4. That the papacy is foe inexorable of Christian marriage and of pure home living.

5. That bishops swear solemnly, to this very day, that they will extirpate “heretics,” etc. ; that is, uproot and obliterate all non-Romanists.

6. That the doctrine of the “Immaculate Conception,* deifying the “Virgin Mary,” is an act of idolatry.

Jeremiah J Crowley

7. That the doctrine of papal infallibility, transforming a poor, frail, corrupt old mortal into a very God is blasphemy most dreadful.

8. That Romanism with its Confessional, its nunneries and kindred agencies, stands for White Slavery in the latter’s most vile and repugnant forms.

9. That the priests of Rome are deliberately and systematically trained to become perverters and demoralizers of Christian boys and girls the world over. They are sworn enemies of Protestant womanhood’s virtue, boasting of their lecherous triumphs over Protestant mothers, wives, and daughters.

10. That where Romanism prevails, licentiousness and illegitimacy are given encouragement and obtain prevalence.

11. That the Roman Catholic schools are so conducted as to endanger the morality of all pupils, but especially Protestants.

12. That Romanism rejoices with exceeding great joy on finding Protestants ready to fight her battles, and profits enormously from such assistance.

13. That popes are elected, not by the Holy Ghost, but by Jesuitical funds and frauds, especially so for the last four centuries.

14. That papal conclaves are scenes and centers of a political and partisan activity, before which the worst of secular political endeavors pale into insignificance.

15. That the Jesuitized Roman Church of to-day is ready to re-paganize that portion of the Christian world subject to its control.

16. That the pontiff of to-day, Pius X, is the mere figurehead of Jesuit domination and absolutism.

17. That the Roman Church is the deadly, inveterate enemy not only of the free press, but of writers independent enough to defy its authority; that it has crushed into poverty and early graves able men daring to expose its malignant and inhuman endeavors.

18. That the so-called Catholic press is an abject slave of the Romish System, covering up the crimes of hierarchs, the monstrosities of convents and monasteries, and assailing the Masonic as well as other orders devoted to the betterment of humanity by the teaching and practicing of brotherhood.

19. That the whole tenor and policy of the Romish System is, in the words of Archbishop Quigley, of Chicago, “to intimidate the so-called Protestant religious press and to muzzle the secular press”.

20. That the pope is now just as busily engaged in the sale of “indulgences” as his predecessors were in the days of Martin Luther, and that this bartering is as disgraceful, un-Scriptural, and un-Christian as that which shocked and convulsed all Europe four centuries ago.

21. That the ” jubilees’ ‘ so frequently proclaimed by popes are simply means to an end—the getting of moneys to glut the coffers of Roman shop-keepers; to fill the purses of priests, bishops, and cardinals ; and to gorge the papal treasure-box with gold from the four corners of the earth.

22. That pilgrimages to the so-called sacred shrines of Romanism, where cures are promised lavishly to the credulous willing to pay therefor, are criminal devices of a crafty, lucre-seeking priesthood, devotees of rum and red-light-ism.

23. That the white prison population of the United States is, in overwhelming majority, of Romanist blood, birth, and training, the product of diabolical parochial or convent school.

24. That papal schools supply a heavy percentage of recruits to houses of ill-repute, and also to America ‘s prison population.

25. That Protestants—as for instance in St. Paul, Minn., and Washington, D. C.—are bled freely to build up Roman bulwarks of superstition and false learning.

26. That Jesuits and other papal agents draw enormous contributions from bed-ridden, benighted Catholic men and women.

27. That disease, decimation, and death are certain concomitants of Romish rule wherever it prevails.

28. That the Knights of Columbus are in politics everywhere in America, busy striving to pass legislation in favor of Romanism’s growth and perpetuity.

29. That one of the purposes closest to papal heart is to spread over all America such agencies as the Quebec school system, synonymous for moral darkness and mental dwarfdom.

30. That the coffers of nunneries are plenteously filled from sale of goods made by unpaid white slave labor, which competes directly with, and reduces to a minimum the wages of, free toilers striving to support aged and youthful dependents.

31. That Ireland can never enjoy Home Rule till Rome Rule disappears from that country, and that Home Rule means the ruin of Rome Rule.

32. That Rome is so opposed to liberty of thought and speech in America as to incite henchmen to murder outspoken opponent.

33. That the Knights of Columbus, are, as proven by the Oelwein incident, thoroughly devoted to the suppression of free speech, even to the shedding of blood.

34. That the neglect and refusal of the Postoffice authorities to keep Rome out of the American postoffice is giving such encouragement to papal agents that they still openly seize on and rifle my mail: and that when privileged postal and telegraphic matter is subjected to seizure by Roman banditti, the persons, property, and lives of American citizens are all placed in jeopardy.

35. That the whole System of Jesuitry and Romanism is diabolical and destructive.

36. That the Papacy is the Antichrist of the Book of Revelations.

“Zionism is a nationalist movement that emerged in the 19th century to enable the establishment of a homeland for the Jewish people in Palestine.” Source – Wikipedia

Some Orthodox Jews are against Zionism:

The anti-Zionist world-view of the ultra-Orthodox groups Neturei Karta and Satmar Hasidism perceives Zionism and the estab­lishment of the State of Israel as an anti-messianic act, conceived and born from sin. These groups vigorously deny the very legiti­macy of the collective political return to the Holy Land and to Jewish sovereignty. For them, this is the handiwork of humans, violating the Jewish people’s oath of political quietism.” Source – https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/ultra-orthodox-anti-zionist/

Not only Orthodox Jews but also many secular Jews are also against Zionism! And it turns out there’s a movement called International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network (IJAN). The “Who We Are” page on its website says,

IJAN is an international network of Jews who are uncompromisingly committed to struggles for human survival and emancipation, of which the liberation of the Palestinian people and land is an indispensable part. We are committed to the right of return for Palestinian refugees and to ending Israeli colonization of historic Palestine, which is reinforced by US economic and military power. We support full Palestinian self-determination and the right to resist occupation. We look to the Palestinian grassroots and Palestinian-led organizations as our primary points of reference in this struggle.

Anti-zionism is not the same thing as antisemitism. Antisemitism is hostility and prejudice directed against Jewish people. I do not have any such hostility toward the Jewish people. When I was a teenager in Chicago, I had a Jewish friend, Rodney Martell. It’s wrong to have prejudice against any people.

I’m against racism. I believe racism is connected to Darwinian evolution, the notion that certain ethnic groups are lower in the evolutionary scale than others, especially lower than white people. That’s what Hitler believed. It justified his genocide against Jews, Gypsies, and even non-German white people he didn’t like such as Slavic nations, Poles, Serbs and Russians. I’ve been a minority white guy most of my life having lived 40 years in Japan, 5 years in Guam, and am now living in the Philippines. I’m thankful to never have felt any racial discrimination toward me ever in spite of the fact of being part of an ethnic minority living outside mainland USA.

In the early 1990s, many young Israelis visited Japan. I used to love talking with them about their lives in Israel and their views on the Palestinian people. And of course I tried to share with them the Gospel. Saved born again true Christians do not hate Jews as a people! The Bible says,

To be an anti-zionist is to be against a political movement, not a people. Here’s a compilation of quotes from Jewish people who spoke out against Zionism, some of whom I didn’t know to be Jews.

Sigmund Freud:

Albert Einstein:

Erich Fromm, social psychologist:

Isaac Asimov, novelist:

Hannah Arendt, political scientist:

Note: History and observation tells me the main source of antisemitism is the Roman Catholic Church. I heard lots of antisemitic rhetoric from Catholic nuns when I was a kid going to parochial school. By the way, Hannah Arendt was no relation to me. I was raised a Catholic.

Henry Ford was was deeply antisemitic, making him a hero of Hitler and the Nazis. I believe one reason for Ford’s antisemitism was because he read the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. But according to former Roman Catholic priest Leo H, Lehmann, The Protocols of the Elders of Zion was written by Jesuits to shift the blame on what they are doing to the Jews!

Richard Cohen, US columnist:

Noam Chomsky:

This is from a Facebook post by my friend David Nikao Wilcoxson. I think his worldview is absolutely correct. Most Christians today don’t understand who the enemy is because they have been misled by a false interpretation of Scripture regarding the Man of Sin, Son of Perdition of II Thessalonians chapter 2, and a false interpretation of Daniel 9:27 regarding the 70th Week of Daniel.

Please see David’s website article about this subject: https://revelationtimelinedecoded.com/prophecy-points-to-the-leader-of-the-roman-beast/

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Dispensational theology is the predominant theology among evangelical leaders today. A major problem with this theological perspective is its fatalism in relation to the future role of the church within the world and its cultural implications. John MacArthur is a highly respected American pastor who calls himself a “leaky dispensationalist.” By this, he means he rejects much of dispensational theology but retains some aspects of it, especially when it comes to Israel and end-times eschatology. John MacArthur said in one of his messages to his church:

“Guess what? We don’t win down here, we lose. Are you ready for that? Oh, you were a post-millennialist. You thought we were just going to go waltzing into the Kingdom because you took over the world. No, we lose here. Get it? It killed Jesus. They killed all the apostles. We’re all going to be persecuted. “

I’m actually surprised MacArthur teaches that because he himself stood up to the governor of California and disobeyed the government’s Covid-19 restrictions in mid-2020 during the pandemic by continuing to hold indoor services! He wrote:

“Christ is Lord of all. He is the one true head of the church He is also King of kings—sovereign over every earthly authority. Grace Community Church has always stood immovably on those biblical principles. As His people, we are subject to His will and commands as revealed in Scripture. Therefore we cannot and will not acquiesce to a government-imposed moratorium on our weekly congregational worship or other regular corporate gatherings. Compliance would be disobedience to our Lord’s clear commands.”

John MacArthur stood up to the government and he won! My hat is off to him! I’m sure he won due to his prayers and the prayers of the members of his church. God is on the throne and prayer changes things! God, not man, is sovereign and in control.

The Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors on Tuesday voted to authorize a $400,000 payment to settle a legal battle with Grace Community Church over lead pastor John MacArthur’s defiance of COVID-19 restrictions in the early months of the pandemic. Under the agreement, which the board unanimously approved without discussion, the state of California will also pay the church $400,000. This agreement, county officials said, was reached in the context of the US Supreme Court’s decision in February that told California it couldn’t enforce a ban on indoor worship because of the coronavirus pandemic. LA County modified its health order and lifted the indoor worship ban after the ruling. (Source: https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2021/september/john-macarthur-covid-settlement-california-church-grace-com.html)

The liberal anti-God woke government of California could not defeat the Church!

Matthew 16:18  And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

There have been many times throughout history when God’s people stood up against the World and won. The Pope and the Catholic Church could not stop Martin Luther or the Protestant Reformation. The Catholic Spanish Armada could not defeat Protestant England. The Jesuit Gunpowder Plot did not destroy the British Parliament. Pope Pius XII despite his support of Hitler could not conquer all of Europe. The Roman Catholic Church failed miserably in its attempt to declare itself to be the State Church of America in 1888! You may not have heard about it. School history books don’t teach it. I learned about it from Justin Fulton’s book, Washington in the Lap of Rome.

Here’s the account of the event:

Wow! How many people know the story of the failed Roman Catholic Church’s coup of the American government in 1888? I sure didn’t until I read Justin Fulton’s book. The Lord answered the prayers of His people! God can also answer our prayers against the elite and their plans to control every single person on earth. We can pray against UN Climate Change Conference also known as COP 28 which is due to start after 28 hours from the time of this post on November 30.

What are the elite’s plans for the world?

1. Destroy the moral fabric of society.
2. Destroy Bible-based faith in Jesus Christ.
3. Undermine the family.
4. Destroy gender distinction.
5. Create trans-humanism, the union of body with computer, for so so-called acceleration of man’s evolution.
6. Destroy the middle class through taxation and the increasing cost of energy as a result of the Climate-Change scam. As Klaus Schwab says, “You’ll own nothing” — And “you’ll be happy about it.”
7. The creation of “15-minute cities” to control the individual’s movements.
8. Total surveillance of every person on earth.
9. A new common worldwide currency.
10. The end of liberty of conscience and forced vaccinations of everyone on earth who are not members of the “Party”.

I wrote this list off the top of my head based on things I’ve been hearing over the years. I searched the Internet but couldn’t find what I wanted. Maybe you can come up with a better list.

The point of this article is we don’t have to take the abuses of our constitutional liberties lying down! We can pray that the Lord will defeat any government policy that is against our morals and our faith in the Bible. Canadian Pastor Artur Pawlowski who was repeatedly jailed for holding church services in defiance of the government’s ban on indoor worship due to Covid-19 was eventually vindicated! Even in nations like China and Iran, counties that do not guarantee the same human rights as Western Nations, people have risen against the abuses of their government and the government was forced to back off somewhat.

God is on the throne and prayer changes things.

My friend Luke shared the below with me. If you study Eschatology from the Bible, you should know that the following doctrines most evangelicals hold to be true are based on a false interpretation of Daniel 9:27, namely, the Antichrist will make a treaty with the Jews and Israel for a 7-year period during which he will allow the Jews to rebuild the temple of Solomon. Please know that this doctrine was created by a Jesuit priest circa 1585, and was rejected by Protestants until sometime in the 19th century through Jesuit infiltration into Protestant churches and seminaries. It began when Darby and Scofield taught dispensationalism. The purpose was to sidetrack Protestantism and to get the Protestants’ eyes off the Pope and the Papacy as the true Antichrist of the Bible. Did it work? You know it did!

I was asked to give confirming Scriptures for all these points. Normally verses are given to teach a doctrine. In this case, I will show how Daniel 9:27 was incorrectly interpreted to support popular but false Endtime doctrines.

My comments of Daniel 9:27 in parenthesis show what Protestants up to the beginning of the 19th century used to teach and believe.

And he (Jesus Christ) shall confirm (not make) the (definite article) covenant (the Covenant God made with Abraham, not a treaty as modern translations say) with many (Jews) for one week (seven years): and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease (when Jesus was crucified 3 1/2 years after He began His ministry, He became the ultimate sacrifice for sin which ended the need for animal sacrifice. The second 3 1/2 year period was the ministry of the Apostles to the Jews up to the stoning of Stephen and the calling of Paul to give the Gospel to the Gentiles.), and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. (The destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple 40 years later.) — Daniel 9:27

1. There is no seven-year countdown to Armageddon – prophesied in the Bible. The Scripture used to support a final 7 years is Daniel 9:27: And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week… Protestant Christians up to the 19th century used to teach the seven-year confirmation of the Covenant was fulfilled in Christ and His Apostles up to the stoning of Stephen.
2. There is no Antichrist seven-year Middle East peace covenant – prophesied in the Bible. The Scripture used to support a Middle East peace covenant is Daniel 9:27: And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week… Protestant Christians up to the 19th century used to teach the Covenant is the same Covenant of Daniel 9:4, namely the Covenant that God made with Abraham.
3. There is no rebuilt Jewish temple in Jerusalem as a result of a seven-year peace covenant – prophesied in the Bible. Protestant Christians up to the 19th century never taught the Temple would be rebuilt! The idea it will be rebuilt is pure speculation and a wrong interpretation of “and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, ”
4. There is no Antichrist that is going to make or break a seven-year peace covenant – prophesied in the Bible. Protestant Christians up to the 19th century used to teach the “he” of Daniel 9:27 is Jesus, not the Antichrist.
5. There is no Antichrist that is going to stop the Jews from sacrificing in the middle of a seven-year peace covenant – prophesied in the Bible. Protestant Christians up to the 19th century never taught that! Part of Daniel 11:31 is used to support this, “and shall take away the daily sacrifice“, but history says it was fulfilled by Antiochus Epiphanes in 168 BC when he set up an altar to the pagan god Zeus in the very temple of God at Jerusalem.
6. There is no Antichrist that is going to sit in a rebuilt Jewish Temple in the middle of a seven-year peace covenant – prophesied in the Bible. Protestant Christians up to the 19th century never taught this. The idea of a rebuilt Temple of Solomon is pure speculation based on the reasoning: “How can the Antichrist stop the Daily Sacrifice when the Daily Sacrifice can only be performed in the Temple? Therefore, the Temple must be rebuilt for the Daily Sacrifice to be resumed in order for the Antichrist to stop it!” This type of interpretation is called eisegesis, or a reading into Scripture something that is not there.
7. There is no Antichrist that is going to declare himself to be god in the middle of a seven-year peace covenant – prophesied in the Bible. This idea came from the wrong interpretation of 2 Thessalonians 2:4  Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. Protestant Christians up to the 19th century used to teach this Scripture is fulfilled by the Popes of Rome. The “temple of God” is the Church, according to the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians 3:16  Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? The Popes claim to be God / Christ on earth!

For the biblical and historical reason behind this, please see The 70th Week of Daniel Delusion on this website.

My Facebook friend Scott Strickland posted a very good explanation of Revelation 20:6 which I like and wanted to share. First, let’s read what the verse says:

Scott calls his view “Kingdom Theology.” His comment on my Facebook post:

In order to understand the millennial reign, it is important to understand it as the 1st century Jews understood it. They knew that the time was at hand due to the fact that the prophecy of Daniel foretold it. Seventy weeks were determined to occur and once Messiah came, He would restore Israel and the 1000-year reign would begin. Pretty cut and dried.

So, what happened? Well, the seventy weeks were fulfilled, Messiah came, and Israel was restored, just like God promised. Pretty cut and dried. But sometimes we can’t see the forest for all of the trees, and it doesn’t help that the vines of dispensationalism have grown up and tangled the view. But if we grab on to one of those vines and give it a good yank, what falls out of the tree will help us in our understanding of when the millennium occurs, for the dispensationalist understand that it comes right after Daniel’s 70th week, just like the 1st century Jews believed. This is why they teach that there is a long pause between week 69 and week 70, they look in the rear-view mirror and see no millennium and conclude that God has called a time out in prophecy.

They see no millennium in the rear-view because they, like so many in the 1st century, “savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.” This is why the disciples asked the risen Christ in Acts 1, “Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?” They understood that the time was at hand for the millennium reign to start. So why didn’t it start then and there? Maybe because it already had. All four Gospels record the triumphant entry of Christ as KING into Jerusalem in fulfilment of prophecy.

“Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass.” (Matthew 21:5).

“Blessed be the kingdom of our father David, that cometh in the name of the Lord: Hosanna in the highest.” (Mark 11:10).

“Blessed be the King that cometh in the name of the Lord: peace in heaven, and glory in the highest.” (Luke 19:38).

“All this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet…” (Matthew 21:4).

Scripture refers to Jesus Christ as the KING, not as a Pretender to the throne. Even Pontius Pilate understood this fact when he wrote out the formal charge under which Christ was crucified: THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS. (Matthew 27:37). The religious leaders also understood that He was the King as we read in Matthew. “Likewise also the chief priests mocking him, with the scribes and elders, said, He saved others; himself he cannot save. If he be the King of Israel, let him now come down from the cross, and we will believe him. He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he said, I am the Son of God.” (Matthew 27:41-43).

The disciples did not yet understand this though in Acts 1, hence Christ tell them: “It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.” Or in other words, “That’s above your paygrade for now.” They as of yet had not “received power” but Christ told them they would “after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.” Then the long-awaited conquest of the Gentiles would begin, not by sword, but by Spirit. “…he shall speak peace unto the heathen: and his dominion shall be from sea even to sea, and from the river even to the ends of the earth.” (Zechariah 9:10).

In John’s account of the triumphal entry, he writes: “These things understood not his disciples at the first: but when Jesus was glorified, then remembered they that these things were written of him, and that they had done these things unto him.” (John 12:16). “The times and the seasons” that had been above their pay grade they now understood.

The millennial reign came just as foretold and we are further told in scripture that Christ will reign until the “end.” 1 Corinthians 15:24 – 26 “Then cometh the end, when he (Christ) shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.”

The restoration of Israel, the Church, the Israel of God, occurs during the millennial reign of Christ and is the symbolic 1000 years spoken of in Revelation, which was ushered in during His first coming and culminates at His second coming. The use of the number 1000 symbolizes completeness or all authority just as it does in Psalms 50:10: “For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills.” God owns the cattle on hill 1001 also, and Christ is still King even though it has been almost 2000 years since He ascended to heaven.

Then, on the LAST day of history Christ returns in Judgment on this world. Right before that day, Satan is loosed on the nations and has power to deceive them once more as we see going on all over the world today. When Christ returns, He calls His own up to Him and the Wrath of God falls on the world of the lost. After which, there shall be a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth will have passed away, having been melted with “fervent heat” as Peter tells us in 2 Peter 3:10.

(End of Scott’s comments.)

This is similar to what another friend, Dr. John Gideon Hartnett says in his article, Does Isaiah 65:17-25 refer to an earthly Millennium rule of Christ on Earth? But he doesn’t cover Isaiah 2:4 which says,

To be honest with you, I’m still not sure which is the correct interpretation of Revelation 20:6 due to the fact I don’t see how Isaiah 2:4 has been fulfilled in the past. I would like to think Revelation 20:6 is talking about a literal 1000-year reign of Christ on Earth over the people who survived the wrath of God at the coming of Christ, but I can’t be dogmatic about that because it was first taught to me 40 years ago by a pastor who was under the influence of Darby and Scofield’s Dispensationalism. To his credit, he broke free of two of the main doctrines of Dispensationalism, the distinction between the Church and Israel, and the doctrine of a secret pre-tribulation rapture of the Church which is connected to the dispensational doctrine of the distinction between the Church and Israel. However, he still held to the doctrine of the 70th Week of Daniel being yet in the future. Nobody’s perfect, right? I’m sure not.

However, I am very dogmatic about the correction interpretation of Daniel 9:27 and the 70th Week of Daniel! This doctrine has far more impact on my life and service to God than the interpretation of Revelation 20:6 and whether it’s past or still in the future. But there’s no doubt in my mind about Revelation chapters 21 and 22. They have yet to be fulfilled because they can only be fulfilled after the second coming of Jesus Christ which has not happened yet.