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Michael Hoggard.

I look at the Roman Catholic church of today as a vehicle of the Antichrist to take over the world. That doesn’t mean it will continue to exist in its present form during the Antichrist kingdom. It may morph into a New Age religion that is agreeable to everybody and all other religions except for Bible believing Protestantism.

Miss Moffat was the key eyewitness who testified at Charles Chiniquy’s trial which exposed the conspiracy by the Bishop of Chicago against him and won a glorious victory for him and his defending attorney, Abraham Lincoln! Read the whole story on http://www.biblebelievers.com/chiniquy/cc50_ch58.html

Jonas, I updated this article and gave you, the Lord, and Essential Oils credit for my speedy healing.

Yes, I do believe there will be final Antichrist who will set up the Mark of the Beast, the new monetary system. And I sure love Pope Francis as a person. He sure seems to be a likable man. But when he calls himself the “vicar of Christ” and says things like, “There is no salvation outside the Catholic Church'” that makes him an antichrist who denies the Gospel!!! I think many Christians today just don’t see that. I sure didn’t until recently.

Thanks, Fabien.

how then do you read this:

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven, with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first;

17 then we that are alive, that are left, shall together with them be caught up in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
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the second coming and the rapture are two side of the same coin. the event that triggers the rapture is the second coming of Jesus

Thank you for your input! Please also see my Bible class about the length of the Great Tribulation: http://jamesjpn.net/2012/08/24/the-length-of-time-of-the-great-tribulation-of-the-saints/

i have followed conspiricy theorys for manye 6 years and every time i see a new site like infowars then at some point i find out that there al shills . the only thing you have to do for it is look up (name of conspiricy site ore person ) and type debunked .
for example david icke hes a shil (ore cointell) he says a few things that are truth and a whole lot of things that are lies (like the elite rich poeple are reptillians ) just so that poeple start believing in it and they can then make fun out of conspiricy theorist from that moment on .this type of conspiricy theoris is called cointell ore shills ore misinformation agents there are also other conspiricy theories conspiritors which i like to cal the metaly ill ones who make up these things just becuase there il (look up john todd on wikipedia ) another type of conspiricy theorist is the one who think about earning money from it bye selling books and things like water purifyers and guns (just look at am tv and infowars) another one are those agents that spread racist ideers about jews and black poeple (racist conspiricy theorist ) and this is the first time i see this site i dont know yet wat kinda conspiricy site this is yet becuase i dont know wats real annymore

Jon, you shouldn’t have sold your gold. It’s now $1861 an ounce.

You bought high, yes, allot of people have had that bad luck. Im sorry. But I believe you could still be sitting pretty with that gold. You cant really compare the dollar against the weight of gold very well. The value in either has to do with what either can purchase at any given time. How many coffee cups, town homes, shoes etc. Things like that don’t go up in value. The dollar goes down in value. The weight of that gold will not change its purchasing power very much over the very long run. The dollar’s purchasing power is constantly decreasing and decreasing. The bread, condo, and shoes your dollar can buy is always becoming less and less. The amount of those same things your gold will buy should remain consistent. AND. If the dollar really crashes, which I believe it will, and certainly many currencies have crashed. So why not the dollar? If that happens, you will need a wheel-barrel of dollars to buy a loaf of bread. But the amount of bread per weight of gold should not change.

Jon, I still think gold is a good investment. You only lost that money if you sold it. Though you bought it at $1700 a ounce and it’s $1200 now, you can be sure it won’t stay that way for long. Soon I believe it will shoot up much higher than $1700 an ounce.

Hey Alice, do you still believe James Corbett was right about Fukushima? I don’t. All of the so called researchers of the Fukushima disaster (most of whom never even stepped foot in Japan) who have been spreading fear, doom, and gloom, have been proven to be false. They are Fear Mongers. Scaring the public for profit.

I have no idea who James Corbett is or why I should listen to him more that my own senses and reasoning. The bottom line about Fukushima for me is this: If it were anywhere as bad as some of these prophets of doom are saying, why are the wealthy elite, the Imperial Family, and the members of the Japanese Diet still living in Tokyo? Sophia University, the top Jesuit run school is there and it’s still business for them as usual. I’m I wrong? Prove me wrong on that and my hat will be off to you. If I learn that the top people in this country who live in Tokyo have indeed fled to another part of the country or another part of the world, you will indeed have made a good point.

I think I do not trust anybody whose background I do not know. Is that guy a born again Christian? I have no idea. I do know there is too much fear mongering on the Internet.

New Jerusalem – The True Israel
How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel: Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power. Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ; And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ: (Eph. 3:3-9)

The physical city of Jerusalem is the location of the first and second Jewish temples, with high priests and animal sacrifices. These were most holy places. The Jewish temples were but a type of the heavenly Jerusalem, as seen in Rev. 3:12 and in Rev. 21:10. The earthly Jerusalem of bible days was based around a physical temple. God intended it to point the way to the true, heavenly temple of God, a temple not made with human hands. The earthly high priests were necessarily replaced by Jesus, the sinless Messiah, (Heb. 4 and 6) who is the cornerstone of an everlasting, heavenly temple. (Eph. 2:19-22) The sacrificial lambs, goats, and calves which they sacrificed could never offer eternal life, and were therefore replaced with the holy sacrifice of the perfect Lamb of God. (Heb. 10:12-14)
The saints are a metaphorical heavenly New Jerusalem. We are the spiritual Church, those who have been born-again to new life in Christ. The saints are the redeemed, and those who suffer under the Antichrist in the Tribulation. We are the little stones or the lively stones that make up the walls of the city of God, and the apostles are the foundation.
When he said above, “You have neither desired nor taken pleasure in sacrifices and offerings and burnt offerings and sin offerings” (these are offered according to the law), then he added, “Behold, I have come to do your will.” He does away with the first in order to establish the second. And by that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. And every priest stands daily at his service, offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God (Hebrews 10: 8- 12). ESV
To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious, Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, (Jesus) elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded. Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, (1 Peter 2:4-7) KJV
And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal; And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel: On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates. And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb (Rev. 21:10-14). KJV
And in every province, and in every city, whithersoever the king’s commandment and his decree came, the Jews had joy and gladness, a feast and a good day. And many of the people of the land became Jews; for the fear of the Jews fell upon them (Esther 8:17). KJV
But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel (Hebrews 12:22-24). KJV
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled (Matt. 5:17-18). KJV
1. Jesus is the fulfillment of the Law and the Prophets. He completed the Old Covenant with the Jews and now extends salvation to all who believe in Him. All of Jesus Christ’s followers are under a New Covenant which is sealed in His own blood.

2. The first Christians were Jews, and God made them spiritual heirs. True Israel is the Church, and the true Church is made up of a faithful remnant of believers, who are God’s New Covenant people. Birth in geographic, ethnic Israel does not make one a true Jew to God.
It doesn’t matter whether we have been circumcised or not. What counts is whether we have been transformed into a new creation (Gal. 6:15). NLT
Well then, has God failed to fulfill his promise to Israel? No, for not all who are born into the nation of Israel are truly members of God’s people! (Romans 9:6) NLT
What is the proof of whether an Israeli-born Jew is part of the true Israel?
The answer is found in Galatians 3:28-29, Romans 2:28-29, and in Galatians 3:7. Paul differentiates spiritual Jews (true Jews) from those who can only claim a genetic connection to Abraham. God does not practice racial partiality. A true Jew is defined by God’s own Word.
There is neither Jew nor Greek (Gentile), there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise (Gal. 3:28-29)
For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God (Rom. 2:28-29). KJV
Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham (Gal. 3:7). KJV
If ethnic Jews reject Jesus Christ as deity, they reject God; and if they reject God, they are not a true/spiritual Jew!
That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him ( John 5:23). KJV (The SAME HONOR! The SAME worship!)
The Jews who live in Israel today primarily reject the Son of God as deity and do not believe he is a manifestation of the Father God. They do not honor the Son as they honor the Father, so they do not honor God, no matter how religious they are, and despite any connection to a genetic Hebrew lineage.
No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also (1 John 2:23) ESV (That is, whoever confesses that the Son is the Messiah of God – or God incarnate – God in the flesh.)
And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven (Acts 2:5) KJV
And (God) hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; (Romans 17:26)
For centuries, the unredeemed, blind, Christ-rejecting Jewish people have claimed to be God’s only true children, the children of Abraham. But scripture points to a New Jerusalem, which is Jesus Christ’s family by spiritual birth. The spiritual Jews are both redeemed Jews and Christians in God’s chosen family.
The true children of Abraham are not carnal, Christ-rejectors, even if they are the most religious ethnic Jewish people on the earth, and living in the territorial heart of the nation of Israel!
Faith in Jesus Christ, not mere nationality, determines true Judaism!
The two candlesticks in Rev. 1:20 = the entire redeemed Church, Christians, and redeemed Jews. These together, are God’s two witnesses on earth! The message of Revelation is about ALL of the redeemed!
God defines true Israel.
And I heard the number of the sealed, 144,000, sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel (Rev. 7:4) ESV
After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude that no one could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands, (Rev. 7:9)
144,000 is a symbolic number. This great multitude coming from all nations, languages, and people is a picture the complete church. It is NOT a simple depiction of national Israel and the original twelve tribes.
Rev. 7:9 shows the spiritual tribes of Israel are joined into one body with the redeemed Gentiles.
For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the (genetic) seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called (Rom. 9:6b-7). (Isaac was Abraham’s child of FAITH.)
That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed (Rom. 9:8) . (Not by birth but by faith!)
For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek (Gentile), there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise (Gal. 3:26-29).
There is no ‘national salvation’ for any group of people, the Jews included! The book of Revelation clearly shows that God’s plan is not about national Israel! Revelation is the conclusion of God’s redemption plan for all who believe on Jesus Christ, who are the true Jews to God!
All who will be saved by Jesus Christ will be saved the same way, by their acceptance of the complete and effectual atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross, plus nothing else. The only access to God is through Jesus Christ and his grace. No one will go to heaven based on nationality!
God does not favor the ethnic Jews over the spiritual church. God’s people have been under a NEW Covenant ever since the cross of Christ. The ethnic Jews are not a separate group with different rules, still under the blessings and curses of the old covenant. They were offered redemption and grace at the same cross Christians come to for God’s mercy! There most certainly are not two classes of people with God, living under different terms. Christ has unified his body into one new man in Christ Jesus.
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them. Therefore remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh, called “the uncircumcision” by what is called the circumcision, which is made in the flesh by hands — remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. BUT NOW in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. For he himself is our peace, who HAS MADE US BOTH ONE and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself ONE new man in place of the two, so making peace, and might reconcile us BOTH to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility. And he came and preached peace to you who were far off and peace to those who were near. For through him we BOTH have access in one Spirit to the Father. So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, built on the foundation of the apostles AND prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. In him you also are being built together into a dwelling place for God by the Spirit (Eph. 2:8-22).

He will render to each one according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury. There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil, the Jew first and also the Greek, but glory and honor and peace for everyone who does good, the Jew first and also the Greek. For God shows no partiality (Romans 2:6-11).
Matthew 24:29-31 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then (after the tribulation) shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other (Matt. 24:29-31).
God’s elect are all those who are the called and have proved themselves faithful to God. They have suffered persecution in order to voluntarily separate themselves from the world, while in the world. The elect are God’s witnesses in every age, who are not a part of the Harlot system. They have spiritually removed themselves from the mindset of the world. The elect are not a race or nationality. God’s blessings cannot be nationalized for one race over another. God’s love and grace is the same toward all men.
And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband (Rev. 21:20).
And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb’s wife. And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, (Rev. 21:9b-10)
Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name (Rev. 3:12). (him = humankind /male & female)

Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God. And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean (Rev. 19:7-14).
Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen (Rev. 1:7).
In John’s visions, in the book of Revelation, he saw the New Jerusalem, (= the bride of Christ of every age since creation,) dressed in white, and thousands and thousands of God’s armies dressed in white, all descending from heaven together, following Jesus, whose countenance was as the sun, whose hairs were white like wool, as white as snow, riding on a white horse. His eyes were as a flame of fire.
This army of saints and heavenly warriors is a picture of the ‘clouds’ John saw in his vision. This is not a silent, secret, rapture! EVERY eye will see God rescuing and avenging his bride!! This is the day where the Church is cornered by the antichrist and suddenly all graves open up, and the saints rise up to meet the Lord in the air. At this time God will judge and make war with all the unrighteous, unrepentant, unbelievers. His victory will be finally accomplished in a final battle, the battle of Armageddon.

Who are the Jews?
All people prior to Abraham’s grandson, Jacob were Gentiles. Hagar, Ruth, Rahab, and Bathsheba were all Gentiles. All of them are listed in Jesus’ genealogy. Is God a respecter of a person’s lineage? No, he is not. So that means that God is not going to set the Gentiles aside in the last days and put into action a plan with the national Jews.
Abraham was not a Jew. The division between Jews and Gentiles began with Abraham’s grandson, Jacob. Before Jacob, there were no Jews. The term “Jew” in our bibles refers to the descendants of Jacob.
In Genesis 32:28, God changed Jacob’s name to “Israel.” In most of the Old Testament, Jacob descendants are known as the Israelites. Later, after Solomon’s reign over the nation of Israel, the nation divided into two nations. One continued the name of Israel and the other became known as Judah, named after Jacob’s son, Judah. Most of Judah’s population were his descendants. Jesus is known as the Lion of the tribe of Judah.
Over time, many people from Israel came to live in the nation of Judah. The nation of Israel was destroyed by the Assyrians in 722 BC. The nation of Judah continued, however. The people of the nation of Judah became known as “Jehudi,” a Hebrew word translated as “Jew” (Jeremiah 34:9; Daniel 3:8, 12; 2 Kings 25:25).
Since many of the twelve tribes of Israel had taken up residence in the country of Judah, a “Jew” also included descendants of the other tribes. Example: In the book of Esther, Mordecai, of the tribe of Benjamin, is called a Jew (Esther 2:5). It is also to be noted that it says in Ester 8:17b, “And many of the people of the land became Jews; for the fear of the Jews fell upon them.”
A large percentage of those who we consider as Jews today are actually not descended by blood from the original Hebrews. During the time of Ester, a number of Persians chose to associate themselves with the Jews and eventually were considered to be Jewish. Nevertheless, only descendants from Jacob are the genetic Jews and everyone else is actually a Gentile.
Before Jacob (“Israel”) all people would be considered Gentiles. After the flood, (950 BC) Noah’s son, Shem (600BC), becomes the ancestral “father” of Abraham (175 BC.) These all would be considered as Gentiles.
Jesus was a Jew, as were all of the twelve apostles. Using genealogical records and scripture, we can trace Jesus’ heritage to the Hebrew people who became the Jewish nation. His ethnic heritage is traced through both Joseph and Mary, his earthly parents. Matthew’s writings support Jesus’ heritage as Jewish. Luke follows the genealogy of Mary and traced Jesus’ lineage through Mary to King David. Luke traces Jesus’ heritage all the way back to Adam. Individuals in the genealogy of Jesus included people who were religiously Jewish, however not of Hebrew ethnicity. These people included Jethro, Rahab, and Ruth. Jesus is the Messiah for all people, not just the Hebrew people.
All who believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, by faith, whether Jew or Gentiles, are in a family relationship with God. God does not have two separate families.
Believers are called saints.
You and I sin, so we could rightfully be called sinners, but as born-again followers of Jesus Christ, God has transformed our identities. God says we’re saints because we’ve been set apart for him and by him. We’ve been made holy. The holy spirit works in us to conform our lives to reflect Jesus Christ. We’re also called a Royal priesthood. We’re saints by God’s calling. In his letters to the church, Paul greets the church as saints. It’s only because of God’s grace that we are saints.
Romans 1:7 to all who are beloved of God in Rome, called as saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
1 Corinthians 1:2 To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus, saints by calling, with all who in every place call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, their Lord and ours:
2 Corinthians 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, To the church of God which is at Corinth with all the saints who are throughout Achaia:
Colossians 1:2 To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ who are at Colossae: Grace to you and peace from God our Father.
Ephesians 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, To the saints who are at Ephesus and who are faithful in Christ Jesus:
Philippians 1:1 Paul and Timothy, bond-servants of Christ Jesus, To all the saints in Christ Jesus who are in Philippi, including the overseers and deacons:
1 Corinthians 14:33 for God is not a God of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.
Ephesians 2:19 So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints, and are of God’s household,
Colossians 1:26 that is, the mystery which has been hidden from the past ages and generations, but has now been manifested to His saints,
Jude 1:3 Beloved, while I was making every effort to write you about our common salvation, I felt the necessity to write to you appealing that you contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all handed down to the saints.
Ephesians 3:18 may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth,
Colossians 1:12 giving thanks to the Father, who has qualified us to share in the inheritance of the saints in Light.
Ephesians 5:3 But immorality or any impurity or greed must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints;
Ephesians 6:18 With all prayer and petition pray at all times in the Spirit, and with this in view, be on the alert with all perseverance and petition for all the saints,
Romans 8:27 and He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.

Are the “saints” (the church) seen in the book of Revelation beyond chapter 4?
Some teach that Revelation, after John’s letters to the seven churches, only applies to the Jews, because they don’t see the words, “the church” from Revelation 4 through Revelation 22:16. Yet they arbitrarily claim that John is writing about “the church” in chapter 19, at the marriage supper of the Lamb, without the word, “church.” It is interesting to note that “the church” is not mentioned in a number of New Testament books. These books include Mark, Luke, John, II Timothy, Titus, I Peter, II Peter, I John, II John, and Jude. Omission of the word, church, is not reason to believe that scripture in these books is not applicable to the New Testament church, also called the saints.
The book of Revelation is not only written for the church, as is all of scripture, but is written to the church!
Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants . . . .
Revelation 1:10-11 I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches . . . . .
Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. . . . . .
Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every (hu)man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, . . . . . .

Christ’s followers are ONE body. We, the redeemed, are “a Temple” in the Lord. ONE dwelling place.

Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints, and of the household of God; And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit (Eph. 2:11-22).

There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. (Eph.) 4:4-6) KJV
Do you not know that you are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in you? If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy him. For God’s temple is holy, and you are that temple (1 Cor. 3:16-17). ESV
So. . . . . . We, the church, are metaphorically called, (by God) . . . . . . the building, an habitation, God’s temple, one body, the saints, brethren, the holy city, new Jerusalem, a bride, the Lamb’s wife, his elect, one new man, fellow citizens, Abraham’s seed, heirs, children of Abraham, a jew, lively stones, a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, one in Christ . . . . .
As a shadow of things to come, God established first, a tabernacle, and then a temple, with a minority people, the genetic Hebrew people, now called the Jews. This was a rustic image of the future true indwelling of God in his chosen and redeemed people. The chosen – all of redeemed mankind, are being built together into an eternal habitation of God’s Spirit. The church is spiritual Israel. The temple of God, the new Jews.
And as for all who walk by this rule, peace and mercy be upon them, and upon the Israel of God (Gal. 6:16).
For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him (Rom. 10:12) .
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Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus: Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
The only begotten Son is one of the personal roles of the triune Godhead.
According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
Everyone who relates to God as his child, relates to him by adoption. God predestined that all believers in Jesus Christ would be adopted and redeemed!
To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence; Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in ONE all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
This is the mystery! God is gathering together ONE eternal family, in Christ!
In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints, Cease not to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers; That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:
Jesus came out from God. He is a manifestation of God, his Father.
The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all (Eph 1:1-23).
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Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus: (Col. 1:26-28)

Linda, thank you sharing. The statement, “during the trib, we do not see references to the church” is something that I have often heard before but so far nobody has given me any verses directly out of the Bible to back it up. Revelation 7:14 and Revelation 12:6 sure sound like the Church to me. Moreover, I think it’s a mistake to make a difference between Christian Gentiles and Christian Jews for Gpd’s Word says in Romans 10:12  ¶For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

The main point I want to make is, unless we can teach a specific doctrine directly out of God’s Word, the Bible, how can we hold that doctrine to be biblical truth? Repeating just what a preacher tells us may mean we are repeating an error. I figure unless I can teach directly out of my Bible a particular doctrine, it means I really don’t know it as well as I should.

Thank you again for your input. God bless you!